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The Finnish city with no homeless, and why Britain is doomed to have homeless


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2019 Jul 18, 6:54pm   2,245 views  23 comments

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-46891392

The number of people sleeping rough in the UK has multiplied since 2010. But in Finland's capital Helsinki rough sleeping has been almost eradicated thanks to a groundbreaking scheme. What can cities in the UK learn from the Finns?

Emerging from Helsinki's grandiose central railway station on a bitterly cold evening, it does not take long before you notice something unusual.

There are no rough sleepers and no-one is begging.

The contrast with the UK's major towns and cities - where rough sleepers curled up in sleeping bags, blankets or tents are a common sight - is striking. ...

"We can see that it works in Finland, so why can't it work here," says Neil Cornthwaite, head of operations at the homeless charity Barnabus Manchester.


Good question.

The answer is simple: diversity destroys social cohesion. What can the UK learn from the Finns? They can learn that no one in a diverse society cares about his fellow citizens because they don't have the same ancestors, habits, customs, or even language. There is no real nation in a diverse society, just a set of nominal (unprotected) borders and official papers (or not, if you're an illegal).

Britain has a "ethnic fractionalization index" of 0.324 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level )

Finland has a much lower level of diversity, 0.132

The reason Finland's homeless programs work is that the Finns still care about each other, exactly because they are other Finns. Take a look at the photos of the people helped by Finland's programs:




They are Finns. That is exactly why other Finns can muster the political will to deal with homelessness.

And the US? 0.491

We are totally fucked by the diversity religion that is erasing the United States as a coherent entity.

Maybe a little diversity is good, like 5% of the population, but excess diversity is death.

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1   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Jul 18, 7:19pm  

California's problem isn't an organic one. Politicians like Eric Garcetti and Gavin Newsom WANT publicly subsidized housing. Garbagecetti is on the record as early as his college years as saying he believe that housing is a fundamental right and the government ought to buy housing for every one.

In 2013 when LA was sued by the ACLU, the city of LA failed to appeal a ruling requiring LA to have enough beds before they could arrest people on the street. Just two short years earlier, the LAPD had arrested homeless in sufficient quantities that there were actually as many empty beds as there were occupied ones. Literally the population on skid row was around 800-1200. Now its in the thousands, multiplying by several times.

The ACLU did not sue surrounding cities like Burbank, Culver City, and Glendale. Garbagecetti and Gruesome supported reduction of crime penalties, early release, and other toxic laws.

Its a straight fucking set up, Intentional 100% all to force government funded housing.

Guess what asshole helped finance both politicians......Of course George Soros.
2   Ceffer   2019 Jul 18, 7:44pm  

In Finland, they call them 'frozen homeless-sickles' and they air drop the bodies onto a glacier. Cold weather has it's advantages.
4   Rin   2019 Jul 18, 8:05pm  

Patrick says
That just can't happen with continuous mass imports from the 3rd world. Assimilation should be the primary goal.


I've already stated that point, read my snipe at bozos like AOC ...

http://patrick.net/post/1325891/2019-07-18-the-20th-century-squad-congressional-americans-of-polish-hungarian-russian-armenian-descent-rail-against-anglo-saxon-hegemony

"Yes, the eastern Europeaners are mad at all those Anglo-German-Dutch or Celtic types, running the country.

They have no representation as Ghoulash, Lamejun. Kielbasa, & Borscht dishes are not served on Capital Hill or the White House.

This is against their homelands and their cultural contributions!

Oh ... wait! No such thing occurred! Those ppl assimilated and married others of the American mainstream and now, are no different than anyone else, from the 1970s to 2010.

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, AOC is just another Sicilian, Armenian, or some other Mediterranean descended person, trying to cry foul at racism or discrimination, just because her family's language is Spanish and not Maltese."
5   NuttBoxer   2019 Jul 19, 11:18am  

While this may play a roll, I don't think we should overlook the fact that Helsinki has a population of just over half a million, while London's population is nearly nine million. Social programs only work when they are administered locally and people know each other. I don't care if all 9 million Londoner's were 100% Saxon blood, they would still have shit-tons of homeless. Centralization breeds stress, isolation, and contempt for your fellow man.
6   Rin   2019 Jul 19, 12:18pm  

NuttBoxer says
I don't care if all 9 million Londoner's were 100% Saxon blood, they would still have shit-tons of homeless. Centralization breeds stress, isolation, and contempt for your fellow man.


I'm not sure if anyone remembers but even the London of Dicken's times was a gnarly place.

In effect, I think because the UK has experience with boom/bust cycles (ala South Sea Bubble) and riff-raffs (Bill Sikes a/o Jack the Ripper), they'll survive this again.
7   Bd6r   2019 Jul 19, 12:45pm  

Patrick says
Emerging from Helsinki's grandiose central railway station on a bitterly cold evening, it does not take long before you notice something unusual.

There are no rough sleepers and no-one is begging.

The contrast with the UK's major towns and cities - where rough sleepers curled up in sleeping bags, blankets or tents are a common sight - is striking. ...

N. Europe is not very good for homelessness
8   Bd6r   2019 Jul 19, 12:54pm  

I do not think that at least in US homelessness correlates with "diversity". From graph below, it correlates with batshit crazy liberal policies.
9   Rin   2019 Jul 19, 1:13pm  

OccasionalCortex says
decentralized-back-to-the-states system


That's sort of how the US started, up until the Civil War.

And the fact that the electoral college is such that the Hillary Clintonese urbanites of Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, Chi-Town, LA, & SFBA don't decide the national election.
10   Bd6r   2019 Jul 19, 1:50pm  

OccasionalCortex says
And where is the 'diversity' concentrated in the US? The batshit liberal policies is an outcome of the diversity.

TX is diverse enough but not batshit liberal crazy YET. TX is becoming more liberal not because of diversity, but because of influx of white limousine liberals from California, who, having ruined their state, now descend to TX (Austin, Houston, Dallas) like fucking locusts. Austin is not the most diverse city in TX - but it is the most crazy and is approaching CA in stupidity. Lubbock, which is as conservative as it goes, is only 55% white. Odessa-Midland is 40 or so % white - mayor is a conservative Hispanic guy who won over a less conservative white guy. Point is, "diversity" as such is not sufficient to make city or state crazy.
11   CBOEtrader   2019 Jul 19, 2:58pm  

d6rB says
Point is, "diversity" as such is not sufficient to make city or state crazy.


In Texas we see Texas Latinos as our brothers. We are the same culture.

Diversity of skin color is A-Ok, as long as there is unified cultural values! Unified cultural values is far easier to accomplish if everyone is related and has same history, etc... But not necessary.

However, when people from other cultures start calling taxpaying Americans Nazi's, we have a big problem.

In a corporation, diversity of thought is excellent!! As long as the corporate vision is shared. It's the same thing for the USA! Diversity is great, as long as we have a shared vision!!! Unfortunately the lugenpresse brainwashes the left to hate other Americans and hate our American values of individual and economic liberty. Any immigrant that comes to USA and loves freedom, is thankful for the opportunities here, and wants the same for future generations is embraced by all.

None of this changes the FACT that humans almost never accomplish a unified vision without a unified cultural history. We need to at least admit the challenge and act accordingly, such as not forcing diversity on communities or accusing groups of being Nazis for choosing less diversity.
12   Bd6r   2019 Jul 19, 3:04pm  

CBOEtrader says
Diversity of skin color is A-Ok, as long as there is unified cultural values! Unified cultural values is far easier to accomplish if everyone is related and has same history, etc... But not necessary.

+10000000000
13   Patrick   2019 Jul 20, 11:03am  

Absolutely.

NuttBoxer says
I don't care if all 9 million Londoner's were 100% Saxon blood, they would still have shit-tons of homeless. Centralization breeds stress, isolation, and contempt for your fellow man.


Look at Tokyo. Even more people than London, essentially zero homeless.

Sure, big cities will always have some homeless because they are collecting points for people who just can't make it because of mental illness or hard drugs, but people from the same genetic pool naturally care about each other much more than they care about those of different backgrounds. The best we can do now is to stress our common culture and slow the flood of illegals.

We should definitely try to bring back the melting pot. That's the only way we can assimilate newcomers and regain some national unity and the benefits that come with that unity.
14   NDrLoR   2019 Jul 20, 12:01pm  

d6rB says
Dallas
Dallas, 100 miles north where I lived 38 years until 2005, is having a crime wave, already more homicides than in 2018, with a fairly new black female police chief. Who saw that coming?
15   Patrick   2019 Jul 20, 9:48pm  

@HEYYOU

Would also enforce the law against those who broke into this country and illegally remain here?
16   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jul 20, 10:16pm  

d6rB says
CBOEtrader says
Diversity of skin color is A-Ok, as long as there is unified cultural values! Unified cultural values is far easier to accomplish if everyone is related and has same history, etc... But not necessary.

+10000000000


The Left is already saying Western Civ is a codeword for White Supremacy. In fact, I think Marcus posted a shitty Left Meme to this effect in the Meme/Toon thread.
17   NuttBoxer   2019 Jul 22, 10:15am  

Patrick says
Look at Tokyo. Even more people than London, essentially zero homeless.


Asians put a pretty high premium on family and ancestors. Beijing is mostly Chinese, but people there are very disconnected, with the exception of those in your family. They'll walk right past people in trouble like they aren't there. This is absolutely due to how harsh and controlling their central government is, coupled with the flood of people living in Beijing. Ethnicity is a symptom, not a root cause.
19   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Sep 30, 6:20am  

Rin says


Oh ... wait! No such thing occurred! Those ppl assimilated and married others of the American mainstream and now, are no different than anyone else, from the 1970s to 2010.

The immigration act of 1924, also known as the Johnson-Reed Act, greatly reduced immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe. It was in effect until 1965.

A limitation on Eastern and Southern European immigration was first proposed in 1896 in the form of the literacy test bill by Henry Cabot Lodge.

Reed, Johnson, Lodge - all fine Anglo-Saxon names.

Immigration from Czechoslovakia and the Czech and Slovak Republics, 1920-2008

23   Ceffer   2023 Sep 30, 11:24am  

With long freezing winters, homeless, drunken, drugged out Finns likely become Finnsickles and emerge from the snow to be cleaned up with the spring thaw.

In California, they can live in those thin tents year around.

In Russia, hobbyists are still going around digging up frozen German soldiers and their various tools, clothing and weapons.

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