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Italy proposes tax on savings hidden in safety deposit boxes


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2019 Jun 14, 7:06am   532 views  3 comments

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-politics-budget-idUSKCN1TD0G5

MILAN (Reuters) - Italy’s government may tax cash and other valuables locked away in safety deposit boxes held with banks, Italian newspapers said on Wednesday, quoting Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini.

The dailies quoted Salvini as telling a late-night TV program on Tuesday that he had been advised that safety deposit boxes in Italy held assets worth hundreds of billions of euros.

“Money that is substantially hidden,” he said, suggesting that deposit boxes were a way of hiding income and assets from the tax authorities.

Those who voluntarily declared their deposit-box holdings would be taxed at a low rate of about 15 percent, he added.


This is a terrible idea. Now no one is going to trust safe deposit boxes. The English did something similar I remember.

The answer is Georgism. Just tax land and other natural resources like radio spectrum. These things cannot be hidden, were not created through productive labor, and it does not harm the economy to tax them.

There should be no income tax or sales tax at all. Those taxes discourage work and commerce.

The best tax is the land-value tax.

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1   Shaman   2019 Jun 14, 7:58am  

Yah it’s a terrible idea because:
1) Safety deposit boxes would be immediately worthless. Banks won’t like that as this is a source of revenue for them. Look to the banks to lobby against this.
2)if the law passes, people with money in their safety boxes will just empty them before it goes into effect and hide it elsewhere, like outside of Italy where their government can’t steal it. Or a coffee can buried in the backyard. Or cut a hole in the drywall and put money in, then seal it up. Lots of Eastern Europeans still do that kind of thing. Money is pretty easy to hide.
2   B.A.C.A.H.   2019 Jun 14, 12:01pm  

I think Mr. Taylor's stock certificate was in his safe deposit box in California. Didn't even matter. Welcome to California, Hipsters.

from the linked file, "...Neither of these plaintiffs were really hard to find, nor did they mean to abandon their property.   Chris Taylor acquired his stock in Intel because he worked for Intel for a number of years.   His wife was general counsel for Intel in Europe.   Intel corresponds with him regarding his stock and his pension fund and knows his address.   He still has his original stock certificates, but the Controller has rendered them worthless by getting duplicate stock certificates and selling the shares...."

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1009832.html
3   Shaman   2019 Jun 14, 12:44pm  

California will do anything for more money, and stealing from its residents is the primary method.

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