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WookieMan
2018 Jul 19, 5:43am
WookieMan
2018 Jul 19, 5:43am
Aphroman says
Admittedly, I’d probably be pretty pissed. That said, if a threat was made to call the cops I’d probably provide ID if I was authorized to use the pool but I’d make a massive scene out of it for sure. Make the guy look like an ass.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think pool boy was acting appropriately. That said, the whole situation didn’t need to escalate into what it did. Sometimes it’s called being an adult. There were two in this case and I don’t think either behaved as one. I’m a Monday morning quarterback here, so I understand my view may be flawed. Fact remains that two adult humans couldn’t figure out how to interact in a pretty simple fashion.
Not a good look for our society regardless of which side you’re on with this story.
How would you react if you were at your pool with the required access card, and some punk bitch on a power trip started demanding you provide Identification
Admittedly, I’d probably be pretty pissed. That said, if a threat was made to call the cops I’d probably provide ID if I was authorized to use the pool but I’d make a massive scene out of it for sure. Make the guy look like an ass.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think pool boy was acting appropriately. That said, the whole situation didn’t need to escalate into what it did. Sometimes it’s called being an adult. There were two in this case and I don’t think either behaved as one. I’m a Monday morning quarterback here, so I understand my view may be flawed. Fact remains that two adult humans couldn’t figure out how to interact in a pretty simple fashion.
Not a good look for our society regardless of which side you’re on with this story.
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WookieMan
2018 Jul 19, 8:32am
WookieMan
2018 Jul 19, 8:32am
Aphroman says
I’d say nothing. But it’s not too big a deal to just show ID. This had the potential to be a complete non-event and two adults acted like idiots in my opinion. An HOA pool is still private property. There are still golf clubs out there that won’t let you in if you have a vagina. This is FAR less oppressive or racist in my opinion.
Most the blame is on the HOA guy for sure. That said, she could have showed ID and moved on with her day. He wasn’t asking for sample of her DNA or anything. She literally could have just grabbed the plastic card out of her purse or pocket and told the guy to fuck off and still shame him and make a scene. Probably still had him fired as well.
I personally don’t think there’s 100% blame on one party or the other. Normal, intelligent adults would have talked it over and figured out a solution. At least I think I would have if I was in either persons shoes.
This divisive attitude so prevelant now is rather alarming. As I’ve said before, even the most disagreeable people here on Patnet would probably have a very good and normal conversation at an airport bar and not realize they hated each other on this forum.
What did the woman do wrong here?
I’d say nothing. But it’s not too big a deal to just show ID. This had the potential to be a complete non-event and two adults acted like idiots in my opinion. An HOA pool is still private property. There are still golf clubs out there that won’t let you in if you have a vagina. This is FAR less oppressive or racist in my opinion.
Most the blame is on the HOA guy for sure. That said, she could have showed ID and moved on with her day. He wasn’t asking for sample of her DNA or anything. She literally could have just grabbed the plastic card out of her purse or pocket and told the guy to fuck off and still shame him and make a scene. Probably still had him fired as well.
I personally don’t think there’s 100% blame on one party or the other. Normal, intelligent adults would have talked it over and figured out a solution. At least I think I would have if I was in either persons shoes.
This divisive attitude so prevelant now is rather alarming. As I’ve said before, even the most disagreeable people here on Patnet would probably have a very good and normal conversation at an airport bar and not realize they hated each other on this forum.
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curious2
2018 Jul 20, 12:14am
curious2
2018 Jul 20, 12:14am
Aphroman says
@Aphroman, since 2001, federal law (USA "Patriot Act") has required pharmacists to keep behind the counter, and to document ID before selling, any decongestant containing pseudoephedrine. It is part of the "war on drugs," so I am surprised you did not know about it. Pharmacists, including at Walgreens among others, maintain a log including of IDs. For example, in the case of driver's licenses, Walgreens pharmacists log the license number.
Other drugs can also require ID, depending on the state.
Your comment referencing multiple pharmacies surprised me for another reason also: errc seemed to believe that healthy diet and cannabis would suffice to protect health, so I hope you and yours are OK.
pharmacists requiring people to show them ID
@Aphroman, since 2001, federal law (USA "Patriot Act") has required pharmacists to keep behind the counter, and to document ID before selling, any decongestant containing pseudoephedrine. It is part of the "war on drugs," so I am surprised you did not know about it. Pharmacists, including at Walgreens among others, maintain a log including of IDs. For example, in the case of driver's licenses, Walgreens pharmacists log the license number.
Other drugs can also require ID, depending on the state.
Your comment referencing multiple pharmacies surprised me for another reason also: errc seemed to believe that healthy diet and cannabis would suffice to protect health, so I hope you and yours are OK.
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curious2
2018 Jul 20, 12:21am
curious2
2018 Jul 20, 12:21am
LeonDurham says
If your association ID had any identifying information, unlike the plain white card clearly visible in the video, then you are trolling again.
When I've gone to an association pool, I've always carried the association ID only.
If your association ID had any identifying information, unlike the plain white card clearly visible in the video, then you are trolling again.
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Abhulimen is a pharmacist from Nigeria. (One of the San Bernardino terrorists was a pharmacist from Pakistan. Among Muslims, education and wealth increase the risk of terrorism.) Northern Nigeria is overwhelmingly Muslim, and Nigerian Muslims are notorious for slaughtering and otherwise abusing Christians, who are necessarily inferior according to Islam. Watching the video, the first thing that struck me was Abhulimen's tone of indignation and outrage that an inferior had dared to ask her for ID. Nevermind that he is the pool chairman and it is his job to enforce pool rules, including the residency requirement, she looked for ways to attack him, demanding to know how she could file charges of "racial profiling." In reality, nobody recognized her at the pool, and Bloom was responding to an inquiry by a fellow board member who said Abhulimen had stated an invalid address.
Abhulimen's baseless attack against Bloom appears to have worked. He has had to resign as pool chairman, and from the HOA bard. His employer, a packaging company called Sonoco, fired him because of the "terrible" incident.
As far as I can tell, he had done nothing wrong. In the video, he behaves calmly and rationally, merely asking for ID. The only person who even raises a voice is Abhulimen, who sounds outraged and refuses to produce ID. It's a suburban neighborhood, how could she have even got to the HOA pool without a driver's license? Operating a motor vehicle without a license in the vehicle is a violation in itself. Yet, her outrage seems to intimidate even the "courtesy officers" who responded to Bloom's call. In the end, she never produces ID, only a key card. Reportedly, she did in fact reside at the second address she gave; when that was confirmed, Bloom apologized.
Too late. Already fired, resigned, and vilified on social media, Bloom is a pariah. He says he has received death threats against his whole family. Anyone who dares to defend him is threatened and insulted by people who do not even consider the merits of the case. They do this on FB, using their real names.