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Democrats are now creating idiotic water shortages?
FortWayne saysDemocrats are now creating idiotic water shortages?
Yes, of course. Science and facts are a vast left wing conspiracy.
Do you even do 15 minutes of research before declaring this to be a made up problem ? No, of course not. Maybe it's republican talking points you get mailed or online ?
I guess maybe it's brilliant ?
Perhaps the strategy goes something like this: "If humans need to live with a smaller footprint because of population growth and finite natural resources, then so be it. But let's have democrats be the ones that always have to fight for the ways in which we have to change our habits, and especially whenever regulations are used to force the issue. That way republicans can be the ones that are always saying it's not necessary - we should be free to happily live beyond our means, we shouldn't have to accept any decrease in creature comforts and wa...
Democrats are in power to make sure we have to use less, and pay more for it. Evil fucking dirtbags. I saw Feinsteins commercials, she talks about protecting some desert from being drilled for water, but doesn't give a fuck that people need water. She is fucking rich, she doesn't give a fuck what us poor peasants have to live with.
You damn right that Democrats are fucking toxic garbage for out state.
In contrast to surface water, groundwater use has largely been unregulated under California law until recently. Many basins have experienced long-term overdraft, and 21 of the state’s 515 basins are now considered “critically overdrafted.” Declining groundwater levels also cause problems for users of surface water when these sources are interconnected. Groundwater basins are replenished by rainfall, streamflow, and irrigation water. As pumping causes groundwater levels to drop, basins can draw in water from adjacent rivers and streams, reducing river flows and harming habitat.
Are humans willing to limit their own reproduction voluntarily, or face MANDATORY limits on resources and eventually reproductive rights? Pick one! Quickly, too- this tragedy of the commons gets worse every day.
Are humans willing to limit their own reproduction voluntarily, or face MANDATORY limits on resources and eventually reproductive rights? Pick one! Quickly, too- this tragedy of the commons gets worse every day.
Marcus are you telling me water limits are a long term solution?
In first world countries, that lower birthrate happens over time. The issue is governments feeling the need to make up the shortfall through immigration or policies encouraging having more children.
This puts an exact number on water savings to be achieved by deporting 3M of illegals. Nice, round, YUUUGE number.
FortWayne saysMarcus are you telling me water limits are a long term solution?
I think it will be debated and there will be a better way. Why not just make people pay an increasing rate for water they use over a certain amount per month. Make the price scale up in such a way that it's a strong incentive to conserve.
FortWayne saysMarcus are you telling me water limits are a long term solution?
I think it will be debated and there will be a better way. Why not just make people pay an increasing rate for water they use over a certain amount per month. Make the price scale up in such a way that it's a strong incentive to conserve.
They tried this same thing with fuel
FortWayne saysThey tried this same thing with fuel
Not the same. Gas is not a utility. Taxes on gas probably do work to incentivize purchase of fuel efficient cars.
Not the same. Gas is not a utility. Taxes on gas probably do work to incentivize purchase of fuel efficient cars.
All while they constantly make excuses why we can’t have desalination plants, and fucking hippies scream how desert eco system would suffer if we were to build water making plants there.
I just acquired a herd of pet elephants and I am frankly concerned with this law.
FortWayne saysAll while they constantly make excuses why we can’t have desalination plants, and fucking hippies scream how desert eco system would suffer if we were to build water making plants there.
If we drain all the lakes and underground water supply the eco system would suffer even more. The Colorado river is already having eco problems due to us siphoning too much water from it.
I get that we don’t want to deplete a vital resource. Almonds aren’t that important.
But why not build desalination plants. Seems like a no brainer solution.
I get that we don’t want to deplete a vital resource. Almonds aren’t that important.
But why not build desalination plants. Seems like a no brainer solution.
I think that once you remove landscaping water, the 50 gal usage isn't out of line with what most Californians already use per person. Using more than that on average indoors is pretty wasteful, for example from using inefficient washers, and it is worth having a limit because it's something that can be corrected.
When you add landscaping then usage can be a lot higher than that especially in the posher areas.
ThreeBays saysI think that once you remove landscaping water, the 50 gal usage isn't out of line with what most Californians already use per person. Using more than that on average indoors is pretty wasteful, for example from using inefficient washers, and it is worth having a limit because it's something that can be corrected.
When you add landscaping then usage can be a lot higher than that especially in the posher areas.
yeah, and some of us have backyards that do require watering. if you limit that watering, you'll turn CA into a damn desert. That's destruction of our society.
Baltimore residents pay nothing for their water. Nothing. So unfair.
@zzyzzx it's only fair you pay part of my water bill. Your fair share comes to $100.00 per month. Thank You.
FortWayne saysCan't we get a daddy figure as a leader that will tell us don't worry be happy ?
Phombar The City of Los Angeles, CA now offers free recycled water to all LADWP customers. Customers can now get FREE, disinfected, recycled water for approved purposes, free of charge. "I can't say FREE enough".
Just bring your water containers with water-tight lids to the Residential Recycled Water Fill Station (RWFS).
Customers may use recycled water only for landscaping purposes, such as maintain trees, shrubs, gardens and lawns.
The web site to go to for this and more information is where I got this information: https//www.lacitysan.org - Phone number: Customer Care Center 1.800.773.2489
If Los Angeles California can do this then why can't the whole state of California do it too?
it's a fucking hassle to drive to the processing plant, fill the drums, water your lawns, repeat.
DASKAA saysit's a fucking hassle to drive to the processing plant, fill the drums, water your lawns, repeat.
Listen, I like green lawns. Makes a yard look nice. But at what point do you just say fuck it and go with something else more favorable to the climate for your landscaping needs? Seems like water has been a problem the last decade or so in CA.
PS. Dense, paved-over cities are hell in summer for this exact reason - no fucking grass.
What do you propose we have instead of lawns in our backyards? Dirt? Gravel? Astroturf? Concrete? It's not about "looks" - the temperature over a lawn is 10-15 degrees cooler on a hot day than over the above alternatives. Astroturf is worse than concrete in this regard, btw.
Solution isn’t limiting people, but creating more.
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Some youtube videos claim the eventual goal is only 30 gallons per day and that they'll be cutting people off by way of smart meters.
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/05/31/california-water-limits/
SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – There will soon be more focus on flushes and scrutiny over showers with a new law signed in by the governor.
California is now the first state in the nation to enact tough new water-efficiency standards. The controversial rules limit how many gallons a person can use inside their home per day.
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“So that everyone in California is at least integrating efficiency into our preparations for climate change,” said Felicia Marcus, Chair of the State Water Resources Control Board.
So, what are the new rules?
In 2022, the new indoor water standard will be 55 gallons per person, per day. by 2030, it will fall to 50 gallons.
“With a child and every day having to wash clothes, that’s, just my opinion, not feasible. But I get it and I understand that we’re trying to preserve…but 55 gallons a day?” said Tanya Allen, who has a 4-year-old daughter.
Just how many gallons do household chores take?
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An 8-minute shower uses about 17 gallons of water, a load of laundry up to 40, and a bathtub can hold 80 to 100 gallons of water.
“She likes to bathe three times a day and she does laundry all day,” said Rocka Mitchell from Texas.
He and his wife Ginger are living in Sacramento for work and say it would be hard to conserve.
“I couldn’t do it. My family is way too large,” she said.
Retrofitting homes with water-efficient fixtures could help cut back.
“I think the average new home is 35 gallons per person per day, so we are not talking emergency conservation here,” Marcus said.
Greg Bundesen with the Sacramento Suburban Water District says they already assist customers.
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“We offer toilet rebates, we offer complementary showerheads, we offer complementary faucets,” he said.
The new laws also require water districts to perform stress tests of their water supply and curb loss due to leaks.
“Right now we lose up to 30 percent of urban water just to leaks in the system,” Marcus said.
Agencies believe fixing those leaks and educating residents is the key.
“Some people may not be aware that you’re going to use a lot more water in a bath and you wouldn’t shower and it’s our job to make sure they’re informed,” Bundesen said.
Water districts who don’t comply face fines up to $10,000 a day.
The ultimate goal is to make conservation a way of life in California. Outdoor water use is also covered by the new laws.
Standards will be based on a region’s climate and other factors instead of just one standard for the whole state.