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What Happened To The Great American Crash?!?!?!?!
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2017 Sep 30, 11:27am 26,677 views 132 comments
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anonymous
2017 Oct 17, 12:47pm
Glad to see you are back Logan!
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
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anonymous
2017 Oct 17, 12:47pm
Glad to see you are back Logan!
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
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anonymous
2017 Oct 17, 12:47pm
Glad to see you are back Logan!
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
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anonymous
2017 Oct 17, 12:47pm
Glad to see you are back Logan!
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
You are a day late though. Yesterday we had a sentient bot on our hands and all he could do was continue to take a shit on America over and over again.
He very much fit your persona of the "anti-American bears" - the angry retirees who dominate this site.
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JZ
2017 Oct 17, 5:46pm
JZ
2017 Oct 17, 5:46pm
The physical world has soooo many many behaviors which will generate unlimited data. One could chose to chase one set of data and others could chase other sets. Who is right? No matter what particular data says, the underlying principle is basically several equations discovered by Newton and Eisenstein.
For economic world the governing principle should be also as simple as "if you consume more than you produce, you will decay," regardless of the data says.
As for money systems to deal with the economic systems, there is always two aspects, discipline and elasticity. You need discipline to make sure Person A do not steal from person B. You need elasticity wish there is a shock to the economical system.
What is the right amount of mix between the two is up to a particular country and the phase of the country. Naming disciplined savers for future as "hoarders" and steal their wealth and put in the hands of "irresponsible" spenders buninglation under the name of lubricating the economy will corrupt the sound principles of the society which will make it "spend more than it produces" and the decay starts. What's inevitable is NOT imminent. True, let's party yo death.
Harvey Weinstein was partying till the inevitable and it suddenly happened. I wonder when that day will be for the central banks and
their minion rent seekers.
For economic world the governing principle should be also as simple as "if you consume more than you produce, you will decay," regardless of the data says.
As for money systems to deal with the economic systems, there is always two aspects, discipline and elasticity. You need discipline to make sure Person A do not steal from person B. You need elasticity wish there is a shock to the economical system.
What is the right amount of mix between the two is up to a particular country and the phase of the country. Naming disciplined savers for future as "hoarders" and steal their wealth and put in the hands of "irresponsible" spenders buninglation under the name of lubricating the economy will corrupt the sound principles of the society which will make it "spend more than it produces" and the decay starts. What's inevitable is NOT imminent. True, let's party yo death.
Harvey Weinstein was partying till the inevitable and it suddenly happened. I wonder when that day will be for the central banks and
their minion rent seekers.
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joeyjojojunior
2017 Oct 17, 6:22pm
lol @ calling the 0.01% "responsible savers".
Nobody, and I repeat NOBODY wants to steal the wealth of middle class responsible savers. There is no wealth tax. So all your other nonsense is just that.
And nice touch name dropping Harvey Weinstein. Bravo.
Nobody, and I repeat NOBODY wants to steal the wealth of middle class responsible savers. There is no wealth tax. So all your other nonsense is just that.
And nice touch name dropping Harvey Weinstein. Bravo.
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HEY YOU
2017 Oct 17, 7:02pm
Damn! I'm slow!
Did anyone catch the misuse of the American flag in this thread & link?
Things can be subtle.
Did anyone catch the misuse of the American flag in this thread & link?
Things can be subtle.
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Rew
2017 Oct 17, 11:59pm
Rew
2017 Oct 17, 11:59pm
Logan Mohtashami says
Being bearish is not anti-American. Being bullish isn't anti-American. It is simply how one feels about an investment or prospects in general. There are very few people who are perma' anything.
Logan, you seem to believe in the mythos that America is immune to the world market and what is going on domestically and internationally. The demographics argument has to be the longest term play I've ever seen, and I've been long on things for over 15+ years at times. Magically the youth is not going to suddenly "work" us out of what is coming. There isn't much work out there, as Janet Yellen and the Fed can tell you. (they are highly suspicious now that their employment numbers are whack, because interest rates stubbornly refuse to rise.)
Logan Mohtashami says
Economics is made by people, not data, and we are not rational actors.
When people assure me something is guaranteed, when traders in general see a sure thing, running the other direction has served me well.
You see the VIX lately? Smooth sailing predicted ... indefinitely.
So you Anti American bears I did do this for you!
Being bearish is not anti-American. Being bullish isn't anti-American. It is simply how one feels about an investment or prospects in general. There are very few people who are perma' anything.
Logan, you seem to believe in the mythos that America is immune to the world market and what is going on domestically and internationally. The demographics argument has to be the longest term play I've ever seen, and I've been long on things for over 15+ years at times. Magically the youth is not going to suddenly "work" us out of what is coming. There isn't much work out there, as Janet Yellen and the Fed can tell you. (they are highly suspicious now that their employment numbers are whack, because interest rates stubbornly refuse to rise.)
Logan Mohtashami says
Follow the data.....
Economics is made by people, not data, and we are not rational actors.
When people assure me something is guaranteed, when traders in general see a sure thing, running the other direction has served me well.
You see the VIX lately? Smooth sailing predicted ... indefinitely.
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_
2017 Oct 18, 4:47am
_
2017 Oct 18, 4:47am
Rew says
I have heard this theory for years
We will have the longest expansion with
Japan was slow
China had some issues
Europe had bond market scare event in 2012
Greece has their usual baby drama event ever few years
South America always has some country in trouble
Russia was in a recession
Manufacturing was in a recession here in the U.S.
None of this impact our business/economic cycle
Why? Because the U.S. has more than 100,000,000 workers that only run on domestic demand curve economics.
Are we entering the stages of a later economic and business cycle.
Yes, we can safely say that
America is immune to the world market
I have heard this theory for years
We will have the longest expansion with
Japan was slow
China had some issues
Europe had bond market scare event in 2012
Greece has their usual baby drama event ever few years
South America always has some country in trouble
Russia was in a recession
Manufacturing was in a recession here in the U.S.
None of this impact our business/economic cycle
Why? Because the U.S. has more than 100,000,000 workers that only run on domestic demand curve economics.
Are we entering the stages of a later economic and business cycle.
Yes, we can safely say that
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_
2017 Oct 18, 4:59am
_
2017 Oct 18, 4:59am
Later stage economic/business cycle
A. Low unemployment rates
B. Fed Rate hike cycle has started we got that
C. Fed wage tracker prime age labor force wage growth is running at 3.8%. The make shift of the demographic profile in this cycle keeps a lid on top line wage growth looking stronger than it is because ages 55 and over have lower wage growth. So now is the time to look to see where we are with unit labor cost growth
D. Volatility has been dying for some time now... the duration of not have having a 5% pull back or a 3% pull has more to do with the credit risk in the market that was created with the strong dollar oil crash has gone away as soon as oil made its move up from $26 - $50 and now the entire world is growing together for the first time in 10 years.
My lord the bears where so awful in this cycle because they believe in political and ideological economic theory, very common with extreme left and right wing people ... Oh and look what this site is.
The reason the world is now growing together is that import volume moves with oil prices and exports are much more important to other countries than ours, so you lost the world economy impacting us now because globalism is winning!
A. Low unemployment rates
B. Fed Rate hike cycle has started we got that
C. Fed wage tracker prime age labor force wage growth is running at 3.8%. The make shift of the demographic profile in this cycle keeps a lid on top line wage growth looking stronger than it is because ages 55 and over have lower wage growth. So now is the time to look to see where we are with unit labor cost growth
D. Volatility has been dying for some time now... the duration of not have having a 5% pull back or a 3% pull has more to do with the credit risk in the market that was created with the strong dollar oil crash has gone away as soon as oil made its move up from $26 - $50 and now the entire world is growing together for the first time in 10 years.
My lord the bears where so awful in this cycle because they believe in political and ideological economic theory, very common with extreme left and right wing people ... Oh and look what this site is.
The reason the world is now growing together is that import volume moves with oil prices and exports are much more important to other countries than ours, so you lost the world economy impacting us now because globalism is winning!
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_
2017 Oct 18, 5:01am
_
2017 Oct 18, 5:01am
You have my total blessing that we can say safely say that we have entered the later stages of the economic and business cycle, I would have like to waited for the U6 rate to get to its base floor 8% level but this last leg lower hasn't gotten us there yet, but close enough
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_
2017 Oct 18, 5:07am
_
2017 Oct 18, 5:07am
BlueSardine says
I was asked to speak about the macro economic trends of America and the housing market at this conference. I was very bullish on the future of America and told these women... Don't listen to men who hide behind fake names, trolls, bots and Anti Americanism .... the extreme left and right will be wrong about America like the bears have been wrong about America since 1790. Economic cycles come and go as we will have a recession at some point but the 2nd Great Depression people have lost their mind because they're old grumpy men and women.
Oh how this picture grates on the misogynistic population here...
I was asked to speak about the macro economic trends of America and the housing market at this conference. I was very bullish on the future of America and told these women... Don't listen to men who hide behind fake names, trolls, bots and Anti Americanism .... the extreme left and right will be wrong about America like the bears have been wrong about America since 1790. Economic cycles come and go as we will have a recession at some point but the 2nd Great Depression people have lost their mind because they're old grumpy men and women.
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_
2017 Oct 18, 5:09am
_
2017 Oct 18, 5:09am
On that final note...
Happy Halloween, Happy Thanksgiving and have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year American bash hating group!
Don't ever forget what this country has given you and your family!
Happy Halloween, Happy Thanksgiving and have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year American bash hating group!
Don't ever forget what this country has given you and your family!
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NuttBoxer
2017 Oct 19, 11:17am
NuttBoxer
2017 Oct 19, 11:17am
A chart Logan will never willingly show you...
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24SPX%3A%24GOLD&p=M&st=1980-01-01&en=today&id=p51165265404
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24SPX%3A%24GOLD&p=M&st=1980-01-01&en=today&id=p51165265404
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B. You can't read data properly
C. Anti Central bank trolls have a sexual obsession over the Fed hence why they're wrong
D. The extreme left wing makes everyone out to poor to hate on Capitalism
This is what we have now
1. Longest job expansion in U.S. history, almost double the previous record
2. In less than 2 years we have the longest economic expansion ever in history
3. Which makes it the first time ever in U.S. history we had the longest economic expansion and job expansion in one cycle
4. This with the highest job openings in the history of mankind
American bears have been wrong since 1790..... and you all will be too! Economic cycles come and go but either a inflationary or deflationary collapse has and won't happen.
https://loganmohtashami.com/2017/09/05/the-state-of-the-u-s-job-market/