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UkraineIsFucked says

richwicks says

If gun manufacturers were pointing a gun to citizen's heads and demanding money, then using the funds to make guns, then giving the guns to sociopathic criminals to do whatever they wanted, THEN it would be the same.

No, it isn't. Because the gun manufacturer doesn't pull the trigger.

Pay attention.

So, if Smith and Wesson was:

* forcibly taking money from people
* making weapons with the money they stole
* giving the weapons to sociopaths

they are not in any way responsible for who is pulling the trigger, or that they pulled the trigger. This is your viewpoint? Is that correct?

This is what I mean is that I am starting to view many people as not really human, and not capable of basic reasoning or thought. Somebody has to guide them in "their" thinking for them to come to a "correct conclusion". I started studying propaganda out of an abstract curiosity of how it worked, and now I understand it, I can't understand how people can fall for it, but they do. People are shockingly easy to manipulate and people this easy to manipulate, I no longer consider much more than machines. An animal has more independent thought.

richwicks says

Misc says

At least he posted the rant in the correct thread for a change.

Dude, I write this shit, and I get silence. Not "yoiu're wrong", I'm fucking right.

I'm tired of people being oblivious and silent.

I can't take it anymore living among this things calling themselves people that will support the worst atrociousness, and not even give it two thoughts.

Just remember, "Day h8 us 4 R Freedumb". That's all the explanation that was needed, and it's twooo, because the prezdident said it. No need to think about it any longer. Fucking subhuman tools.

Let's see in another of the rants, you wanted to know how you were suffering from Russian propaganda. I will ask a multiple choice question. For the audio clips you have of Nuland talking to that other Spook about who they wanted in charge of Ukraine and for the audio clip of the 2 diplomats talking about the happenings just after the massacre in Kiev; did they come into your possession:

A) From Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman because he is an equal opportunity Whistleblower
B) Pure fucking magic
C) The calls were intercepted by the FSB (Russian Intelligence) and released across the web with evil connotations
D) Aliens
E) ( Fill in the Blank)

You see, I give you the chance to redeem yourself with the fill in the blank option. Everybody else on Patrick.Net can easily see the optimum answer.

richwicks says

they are not in any way responsible for who is pulling the trigger, or that they pulled the trigger. This is your viewpoint? Is that correct?

Not a viewpoint.

Doesn't matter how they get their money. You seem to think that makes some sort of difference to the Guns Don't Kill People Argument. That's just a bitch rant non-related to the logic.

Your typical IDF soldier is not a sociopath, too.

But it doesn't matter.

Just like if I kill someone with a knife I bought with social security money doesn't mean anything that logically pins the blame on the knife manufacturer.

Oh, and your 'logic' is still messed up. Gun manufacturers don't take money forcibly from ppl.

If I haven't told you this before: re-read thru your rants before hitting the submit button. You constantly post shit that has more logic holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese.

Misc says

Let's see in another of the rants, you wanted to know how you were suffering from Russian propaganda. I will ask a multiple choice question. For the audio clips you have of Nuland talking to that other Spook about who they wanted in charge of Ukraine and for the audio clip of the 2 diplomats talking about the happenings just after the massacre in Kiev; did they come into your possession:

A) From Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman because he is an equal opportunity Whistleblower
B) Pure fucking magic
C) The calls were intercepted by the FSB (Russian Intelligence) and released across the web with evil connotations
D) Aliens
E) ( Fill in the Blank)

You see, I give you the chance to redeem yourself with the fill in the blank option. Everybody else on Patrick.Net can easily see the optimum answer.

Most likely the FSB.

Let me ask you a follow up question.

What does it matter who it came from if it's true?

I want an answer from this.

The recordings are confirmed to be authentic. Why should I give a shit what the source is? Why do you? Are you retarded? Do you only accept true information if it comes from your best and most trusted holy anointed savior or something?

So, I again ask, what does it matter who recorded it? Why would that even be something that I would consider with information? If Nazi scientists during the holocaust found a cure for cancer by doing inhumane monstrous experiments on Jewish victims, do you think we shouldn't use the information?

UkraineIsFucked says

Doesn't matter how they get their money. You seem to think that makes some sort of difference to the Guns Don't Kill People Argument. That's just a bitch rant non-related to the logic.

I said I don't consider some people fully human and I'm not kidding. I'm not going to waste my time arguing this point.

I'm not bitching about the weapons makers, I'm bitching about the people providing the weapons to the criminals. I'm not complaining about the people purchasing the weapons, I'm complaining about the people funding them so they CAN purchase the weapons.

You appear incapable of understanding that. I am no kidding at all when I'm starting to see a lot of people is malformed, semi-human beings, incapable of trivial logic and reasoning. Just look up your example, you're making an analogy, one that you didn't come up with, one that has been programmed into you.

Should I blame the CIA for bringing in drugs into poor black neighborhoods, and making a black market for guns there? Yes, I do. You don't. It's just the asphalt monkey's fault. The CIA is blameless, isn't that your contention?

It matters because of the Evil connotations that were distributed with it. I read some Russian propaganda sites because most good propaganda has some truth behind it. As far as Nuland talking to the other Spook, that is what they are paid to talk about. It was just listening in to a conversation around the office. What happened afterwards (the massacre) was unrelated to their conversation, but the FSB made it look otherwise.

For the conversation between the diplomats, they were speculating along with a million other people as far as what happened. They were doing so before any hard facts were established. The FSB made it seem that these people were discussing the facts.

It is all in the spin. The conversations did in fact take place.

Look at this outpouring of pure Democracy! There is no Syrian Deep State, this is pure love for the Great Lion Bashar!



Praise him with Great Praise!

Misc says

It matters because of the Evil connotations that were distributed with it. I

Well what are they? I have no idea. Doesn't matter where FACTS come from. Radium kills people over time, should we ignore this because it "evilly" killed Madame Curie and her husband?

Misc says

I read some Russian propaganda sites because most good propaganda has some truth behind it.

Propaganda is useless. Information is useful.

Misc says

As far as Nuland talking to the other Spook, that is what they are paid to talk about.

Paid to setup governments of foreign nations that the CIA overthrew, after the new government that they are planning to install were the ones that shot people on both sides of the protest, and to make certain that these murders were blamed on the OLD administration?

Misc says

What happened afterwards (the massacre) was unrelated to their conversation, but the FSB made it look otherwise.

It was part of the coup. I don't think Victoria Nuland or Geoffrey Pyatt had anything to do with that. The CIA did. Nuland and Pyatt are assets of the CIA, OR if not the CIA, some other "intelligence" organization, which does coups, and doesn't gather intelligence, but overthrows countries - but I know the CIA does a lot.

Misc says

For the conversation between the diplomats, they were speculating along with a million other people as far as what happened. They were doing so before any hard facts were established. The FSB made it seem that these people were discussing the facts.

No, I have the conversation:


original link


I've excerpted the quotes and given timestamps, and although they didn't order the killing, they were happy enough to cover it up,and they were pointing out that the new government that the US installed didn't care that the new government MAY have murdered innocent people to gain power, and since the US installed them, that means the US was happy to murder people to install their people.

Any error in my reasoning here?

Misc says

It is all in the spin. The conversations did in fact take place.

It's only spin to you because you have a lot of cognitive dissonance, and I work very hard to eliminate mine.

richwicks says

I'm not going to waste my time arguing this point.

Then why did you start it?

richwicks says

I'm not bitching about the weapons makers, I'm bitching about the people providing the weapons to the criminals.

No you didn't.

And Israelis are not criminals.

richwicks says

You appear incapable of understanding that. I am no kidding at all when I'm starting to see a lot of people is malformed, semi-human beings, incapable of trivial logic and reasoning.

I am quite capable seeing bullshit on your rants. Believe me.

richwicks says

Should I blame the CIA for bringing in drugs into poor black neighborhoods, and making a black market for guns there? Yes, I do. You don't. It's just the asphalt monkey's fault. The CIA is blameless, isn't that your contention?

Ooohhh...boy. We have a live one folks!

At least he didn't confuse the CIA with the FSB.

Ever notice how ISIS in the Sinai and Muslim Brotherhood affiliates always do shit shortly after the rare times Egypt opens their border with Gaza? Does the Syrio-Russian or Socialist Fannon Left propaganda machines bother to mention that Gaza shares a border with Egypt? That it's three-levels deep and that they flood Hamas tunnels with sewage, not just sea water like the IDF does?

And that the Egyptians had to be dragged kicking and screaming to partially open their border for aid trucks to Gaza for that very reason? Given that Egypt's Red Sea resorts and Pyramid tourism is a major cash cow for them?

That when the 1200 people were murdered by hanggliding terrorists (who had to have some training elsewhere) on a sleepy morning, Hamas was breaking a ceasefire, and that might kinda be the reason that Israel is uninterested in leaping to agree to another one, esp. without all hostages released as a pre-condition?

Or that the IRC is suddenly claiming they don't have responsibility to check on civilian hostages when the Geneva Conventions specifically ames them as being the organization with the responsibility to do that?

Russian propaganda is an overused trope coming out of DC, however, sometimes when somebody says someone fell for it, the Russian propaganda is the real deal.

AmericanKulak says

That when the 1200 people were murdered by hanggliding terrorists (who had to have some training elsewhere) on a sleepy morning

There were training in Gaza, it's 141 square miles with a population of about 2 million giving a population of (141 x 5,280,5,280) / 2,000,000 = 1,965 square feet per person.

There's no getting out of Gaza, they were training in Gaza, Israel knew they were training in Gaza unless they are that incredibly stupid, they let it happen.

AmericanKulak says

Or that the IRC is suddenly claiming they don't have responsibility to check on civilian hostages when the Geneva Conventions specifically ames them as being the organization with the responsibility to do that?

There's been around 100 journalists killed in Gaza. IDF would just kill them. The Nazis were better with the Red Cross.

UkraineIsFucked says

And Israelis are not criminals.

At the end of this, I predict there will be about 100,000 Palestinians dead. Israel is trying to drive them out into the Sinai and I'm not certain they will be successful. It will leave the entire region devastated.

IF Israel is able to drive them out the US will pay for the new settlements in Gaza, and the Palestinians will survive and will remember what was done to them by the United States and Israel, Egyptians (perhaps not the government, they can be bought easily), will be pissed off.

It's just setting up for another fucking war in the future, because this is an obvious injustice.

If you're in your 50's or below, you'll live to see it, and I want you to remember what you supported. Israel is going to kill 5% of the population, and the Israelis are going to cheer it on, and the US is going to pay for it. YOU support this. I oppose it.

Israel will NEVER allow a two state solution. They will take over the entire West Bank, and they will take over Gaza, that's their plan and had been since 1948.

And in the meantime i have to hear people whine "why won't the other Arab countries take them in???" Well, they aren't natives of those other countries, or descendants from those countries, mostly. They are the indigenous people. If you've ever wondered what you would do if a nation invaded another country to ethnically expelled the people there, now you know what you'd do, you're doing it now. All this talk about people having principles is bullshit. Not only are you entirely ignoring it, you want to fucking pay for it, and make me fucking pay for it. Fuck you.

richwicks says

At the end of this, I predict there will be about 100,000 Palestinians dead. Israel is trying to drive them out into the Sinai and I'm not certain they will be successful. It will leave the entire region devastated.

So? That's WAR.

UkraineIsFucked says

richwicks says

At the end of this, I predict there will be about 100,000 Palestinians dead. Israel is trying to drive them out into the Sinai and I'm not certain they will be successful. It will leave the entire region devastated.

So? That's WAR.

No, it's NOT war. It's just ethnic slaughter.

Israel isn't fighting another military, they are fighting an ethnic group which they have stolen land from for the last 7 decades and forced into open air concentration camps.

People still complain about Twitter/Elon. Try posting this on any other social media platform. Elon may not be perfect but he is the best we got, so far. If not, tell me which billionaire is better?

Most are unknowingly and inadvertently carrying out an agenda.
Now, imagine a cancer treatment health care worker telling me, "we don't tell people not to eat cancer causing food, we just don't"

gabbar says

What's the source? I see a paper, but point it to me as a source.

And today's uniparty paid actor is:

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/how-do-you-fight-hate-without-feeding




Seems to be a real book, and the author was black.

Nowadays he would get cancelled for using the word "nigger".

Speaking of which:

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1766934545360953582

I do think there is some truth in that. Actually a lot of truth if you look at the wildly disproportionate number of interracial couples in ads these days:

Adolf Hitler in English AI Reconstruction

https://youtu.be/8QgXIFzQi0Y?si=yhkLCola2X2WmOgv

Crazy mf

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-nigerian-students-killed-23-143810615.html

Two Nigerian students are killed and 23 injured in a stampede to get donated rice

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says