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Republicans Raise your Taxes they go up 4% on the poor and middle class!


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2013 Jan 3, 3:03am   14,477 views  49 comments

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Taxes go up 4% on the poor and middle class!

Payroll taxes up 2%!
Obamacare 2%

how are people going to live, those who earn the national avg $26K

The payroll tax cut should be made permanent for incomes under $40k

The republicans refused to extend it!

#politics

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10   CL   2013 Jan 3, 3:17am  

What would fund SSI then? You'd need to raise or eliminate the cap on earnings (or make a donut hole for the upper-middle class).

Otherwise, why not just eliminate the "tax"?

It was only meant to be a short-term stimulus. Unlike irresponsible Republicans, tax cuts can be temporary. Maybe they should always be?

11   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jan 3, 3:18am  

Kevin says

The payroll tax holiday was a stupid, pointless exercise that didn't do anything.

I agree, but Obama said, anyone making under 250K, nothing changes, you wont feel a thing. he then said on a few occassions. "I repeat, if you make under 250K your taxes wont go up at all".

Romney was the guy that told the truth, and said he was going to cut out all of the breaks and cuts. To which Obama called him on, and said...
"So you're saying taxes will go up on everyone?" Romney thought a minute and said, "I guess that IS what I'm saying. "

To which Obama used as an opportunity to reiterate his stance that taxes wont go up on the middle class. Not one single dime.

This is going to be cute come 2014, and just wait until the mandate kicks in. It will be fireworks over Niagara falls.

12   121212   2013 Jan 3, 3:21am  

CL says

It was only meant to be a short-term stimulus. Unlike irresponsible Republicans, tax cuts can be temporary. Maybe they should always be?

That maybe true but the economy has had major inflation over the last 4 yrs especially on food and services, way over 2% a year. With inflation and now an additional 2-4% loss in pay people who should not be punished for the government propping up the society on behalf of the Banks and elites are now the fall guys.

It's awful.

Salaries have not moved and will not move, where is the 2% coming from ? Peoples Expenditure?

Make the payroll tax cut permanent for incomes under $40k

13   121212   2013 Jan 3, 3:22am  

CaptainShuddup says

I agree, but Obama said, anyone making under 250K, nothing changes, you wont feel a thing. he then said on a few occassions. "I repeat, if you make under 250K your taxes wont go up at all".

You know very well they were talking INCOME TAXES.

Your a fraud.

14   121212   2013 Jan 3, 3:23am  

CaptainShuddup says

Romney was the guy that told the truth

Keep smoking that CRACK!

15   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jan 3, 3:28am  

121212 says

You know very well they were talking INCOME TAXES.

We're not talking about me peep squeak.

I'll understand it all right, but my fellow stupid Americans they aren't as bright as I am, they voted for Obama. Hell they aren't even as smart as you are. They are going to be all busted up about this come Friday.
I'll try to explain it to them, but I don't think they will listen.

16   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 3, 3:36am  

Social security tax will go up from 4.2% to 6.2% on first $113,700 of income. However, there's no 2% obamacare tax. What will happen is that singles with income of 200Gs or more and marrieds with income of 250Gs or more will pay additional 3.8% tax on ivestment income.

17   121212   2013 Jan 3, 3:37am  

CaptainShuddup says

I'll understand it all right, but my fellow stupid Americans they aren't as bright as I am, they voted for Obama. Hell they aren't even as smart as you are. They are going to be all busted up about this come Friday.

I'll try to explain it to them, but I don't think they will listen.

Do you understand it was the House Republicans raising taxes on 77% of the country with this?

18   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 3, 3:38am  

CaptainShuddup says

121212 says



You know very well they were talking INCOME TAXES.


We're not talking about me peep squeak.


I'll understand it all right, but my fellow stupid Americans they aren't as bright as I am, they voted for Obama. Hell they aren't even as smart as you are. They are going to be all busted up about this come Friday.
I'll try to explain it to them, but I don't think they will listen.

I think its obvious that barack was talking about income taxes, not payroll taxes. If "fellow stupid americans" didn't get it or didn't bother to research, that's on them, maybe they should watch less reality tv.

19   121212   2013 Jan 3, 3:42am  

The House Republicans raised taxes

20   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jan 3, 4:07am  

dublin hillz says

maybe they should watch less reality tv.

We would Love too, but the Liberal media is trying to realize a Life imitates Art with "Idiocracy" by only airing the worlds stupidest people on all of the learning channels.

There's nothing more annoying than some dumb redneck American correcting the tour guide at Pompeii with accurate information they learned from the Learning Channel.

Then they were bombarded by all of the "Check out my bad ass gun" shows, but after last month, they decided perhaps that isn't the best programming to brainwash the collective dolts with.

21   121212   2013 Jan 3, 4:13am  

In reference to reality shows Captain'Idiot shows his ignorance by blaming the liberal media for REALITY TV!

CaptainShuddup says

We would Love too, but the Liberal media is trying to realize a Life imitates Art with "Idiocracy" by only airing the worlds stupidest people on all of the learning channels.

Shut the fuck up you moron!

You seriously don't know when your talking utter horse shit.

Here is a list of Fox Reality Shows.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Fox#Reality_shows_and_talent_competitions

30 Seconds To Fame (2002–03)
America's Most Wanted (1988–2011)
American High (2000)
American Juniors (2003)
Anchorwoman (2007)
Beyond Tomorrow (1988–1990)
Boot Camp (2001)
The Casino (2004)
The Choice (2012)
Celebrity Duets (2006)
The Chamber (2002)
Forever Eden (2004)
Invasion of the Hidden Cameras (2002)
Joe Millionaire (2003–04)
Married by America (2003)
More to Love (2009)
Mr. Personality (2003)
Murder in Small Town X (2001)
My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss (2004)
My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance (2003)
Nanny 911 (2004–2007)
Nashville (2007)
The Next Great American Band (2007)
Paradise Hotel (2003)
Playing It Straight (2004)
Q'Viva! The Chosen (2012)
The Princes of Malibu (2005)
The Rebel Billionaire: Branson's Quest for the Best (2004)
Renovate My Family (2004–05)
The Reporters (1988–1990)
The Simple Life (2003–2005)
Skating with Celebrities (2006)
Take Me Out (2012)
The Swan (2004)
Temptation Island (2001–2003)
Totally Hidden Video (1989–1992)
Trading Spouses (2004–2007)
Unan1mous (2006)
World Idol (2003–2004)
World's Wildest Police Videos (1998–2002)

News Corporation and Fox produce 100's if not 1000's of reality based TV

Reality/non-scripted

Simon Cowell – creator of American Idol and The X Factor (where he is also a judge).
Cops (1989–present)
American Idol (2002–present)
So You Think You Can Dance (2005–present)
Hell's Kitchen (2005–present)
Kitchen Nightmares (2007–present)
MasterChef (2010–present)
Mobbed (2011–present)
The X Factor (2011–present)
Hotel Hell (2012–present)

22   HEY YOU   2013 Jan 3, 4:34am  

Please don't condemn my religion.
I worship at the TV altar of FOX because it's real(ity).

23   121212   2013 Jan 3, 4:37am  

HEY YOU says

Please don't condemn my religion.

I worship at the TV altar of FOX because it's real(ity)

No it's only the liberal media making SHIT TV! Jeez..

24   HEY YOU   2013 Jan 3, 4:43am  

121212 says

HEY YOU says

Please don't condemn my religion.

I worship at the TV altar of FOX because it's real(ity)

No it's only the liberal media making SHIT TV! Jeez..

Your are absolutely correct.
I pray 5 times a day to the only true TV GOD, FOX

25   121212   2013 Jan 3, 6:00am  

Actually he will only be working about 150 or so days this year.

Also if the last 4 years are the same as the next 4yrs, he will preside over the worst legislate group in history.

26   CL   2013 Jan 3, 6:10am  

121212 says

Also if the last 4 years are the same as the next 4yrs, he will preside over the worst legislate group in history.

They should be a bit better, after losing so many elections the leaders will hopefully continue to stick it in the eye of the teabagging ass-clowns.

27   121212   2013 Jan 3, 6:14am  

CL says

teabagging ass-clowns.

They are up to something, be very weary. they will continue to force the government to stop funding the middle class and poor. They know this will create a massive world wide recession and they know the money will flow faster to the top 1% without unions standing in the way.

That's all they care about, corporate masters!

28   121212   2013 Jan 3, 6:30am  

CaptainShuddup says

We can now all agree with Barry that GWB was the best POTUS in the history of the country.

Your delusion knows no bounds.

Did you take your Alzheimer pills this morning, you seem to be sun downing!

Without a doubt BUSH was THE WORST leader in all the Worlds history.

29   marcus   2013 Jan 3, 6:50am  

121212, you are arguing with a guy who has years of history here rarely of being really coherent.

He thinks his style of commenting based on feelings that even he has no logic to back is sort of like jazz. It's the empty spaces where logic should be behind what he says that makes it work for him.

He takes pride in this.

SOmetimes its just outright blatant trolling, especially with people that are going to respond to even the most insane things he says.

Hey, he's found a way to believe what he wants to believe while simultaneously knowing that it proves he's stupid or intellectually dishonest, but he uses this creativity and jazz shtick to avoid thinking too much about the stupid and dishonest part.

Anyway, point is, calm down dude.

30   marcus   2013 Jan 3, 6:51am  

Pick your spot and make your point, but you don't want to go on and on with it or let him get you all emotional. None of us need to see that.

31   121212   2013 Jan 3, 6:55am  

marcus says

121212, you are arguing with a guy who has years of history here rarely of being really coherent.

I know he is a lunatic, he has no empathy, compassion, he is severely mentally challenged and delusional about reality. However, I will not allow his bullshit to go unchallenged.

His constant intellectual dishonesty shows a deep seated delusion he may not be aware of. He is off his trolley!

32   HEY YOU   2013 Jan 3, 12:29pm  

marcus:".. stupid or intellectually dishonest,"

121212:"lunatic","no empathy,compassion","mentally challenged and delusional about reality"

Please don't credit my 'Unique' attributes to anyone else. ROFLMAO

Has anyone seen my Ego?

33   LarryPatrickMaloney   2013 Jan 3, 12:40pm  

Nice try.

#1.) The "fiscal cliff" deal originated from the WhiteHouse and Senate. Both currently controlled by democrats.

#2.) In the house a majority of Democrats voted for the deal.

#3.) Majority of Republicans in the house voted AGAINST the bill.

Please play again.

34   carrieon   2013 Jan 3, 12:54pm  

Boehner represents only one half of the country that works and gets nothing from the government.
If he has his way, taxes will be zero.
That's how a republic is established.

Obama represents the other half that doesn't work and gets paid for not working.
If he has his way, taxes will be 100%
That's how Lenin and Castro built a community.

35   nope   2013 Jan 3, 1:29pm  

carrieon says

Boehner represents only one half of the country that works and gets nothing from the government.

If he has his way, taxes will be zero.

That's how a republic is established.

Obama represents the other half that doesn't work and gets paid for not working.

If he has his way, taxes will be 100%

That's how Lenin and Castro built a community.

So you think in the USSR and Cuba, taxes were 100% and nobody worked?

Glad to see you understand history. You might want to actually learn what tax rates were in these regimes.

(morons confusing taxation for communism or socialism seems to be a recurring theme. It's like they don't understand what those economic systems even are)

36   pdh   2013 Jan 3, 1:58pm  

Boehner represents only one half of the country that works and gets nothing from the government.

No need for fact checking, everyone! Move along!

37   nope   2013 Jan 3, 4:46pm  

If you understand that the Republican's goal is to make government as small as possible, NOT to "balance the budget", their proposals all make complete sense.

These idiots would gladly accept a 100% reduction in revenue for a 50% reduction in spending.

38   pdh   2013 Jan 3, 5:25pm  

Republicans don't want small government, they want government to be small when it does things they don't like, which doesn't really move the debt needle at all. If they wanted smaller government they would have done something about it when they had the power to do it.

39   nope   2013 Jan 3, 6:12pm  

pdh says

Republicans don't want small government, they want government to be small when it does things they don't like, which doesn't really move the debt needle at all. If they wanted smaller government they would have done something about it when they had the power to do it.

They haven't had the power to do it. What they want is to end every non-defense program. They can't do that without popular support, which is why they're operating the way that they do:

- Get temporary tax cuts passed.
- Fight to make some or all of those cuts permanent.
- Force budget cuts to pay for the tax cuts.
- Insist that defense spending be protected.
- Add means testing to big social programs to turn people against them.

40   david1   2013 Jan 4, 12:18am  

CaptainShuddup says

My Check is $20 short


That's one less bag of diapers, I can't afford.
because...
That's two cases of Keystone beer.
or
That's a half a carton of cigarettes.
or
4 gallons of gas
or
That's 1/2 hour of being insured and healthy in this country.

Put in an extra hour of work a week if you need those diapers. Income remains the same.

Lazy bum.

41   david1   2013 Jan 4, 12:52am  

CaptainShuddup says

I can't because some liberal bum in HR says no overtime.

You can't get a second job?

42   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 4, 1:07am  

CaptainShuddup says

My Check is $20 short


That's one less bag of diapers, I can't afford.
because...
That's two cases of Keystone beer.
or
That's a half a carton of cigarettes.
or
4 gallons of gas
or
That's 1/2 hour of being insured and healthy in this country.

Are you willing to purge geezers to greenland? Fuck keystone, free heineken and stoli for volunteers!

43   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 4, 1:10am  

Mine is roughly $50 less - will get a bunch of it back through additional principal prepayments on mortgage and hopefully a good return on IRA max.

44   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 4, 1:15am  

CaptainShuddup says

Got our email from HR this morning... Lots of proud Obama voters are somewhat miffed... Makes this almost worthwhile...

Whoever didn't understand that the conversation about taxes was about income taxes and not about payroll taxes does not deserve sympathy - doesn't matter who they voted for or what their political leanings are.

45   david1   2013 Jan 4, 1:19am  

Am I the only one here that was given a raise? My take home income, net of the payroll tax hike, went up.

46   Tenpoundbass   2013 Jan 4, 1:22am  

OMG! The parking lot is full of people ripping Obama/Biden 2012 stickers off of their cars, they are stomping on them... They are now brushing them into a big pile of shredded plastic and paper... They are now dousing them with petrol... and now lighting the bumper sticker pile ablaze. Oh the humanity the flames are shooting up to the roof. It's pandemonium.
Oh no someone in a Hoodie got to close to the bonfire, and caught on fire, he's running around in circles. The HR lady is out there now with a fire extinguisher, but due to budget cut backs, it hasn't been checked since Bush was in office. Everyone is now kicking the guy in the hoodie trying to extinguish the flame.
Oh no, they are starting to like kicking the burning man in the hoodie, they see the poor guy as a metaphor for all of the money they lost in their 401K on Facebook.

47   Y   2013 Jan 4, 4:32am  

I just gave myself a 500 raise to offset the increase.

48   zzyzzx   2013 Jan 4, 4:39am  

david1 says

Am I the only one here that was given a raise? My take home income, net of the payroll tax hike, went up.

Probably.

49   dublin hillz   2013 Jan 4, 6:26am  

Call it Crazy says

dublin hillz says



Mine is roughly $50 less - will get a bunch of it back through additional principal prepayments on mortgage


Shouldn't that be interest payments?? Or do you deduct principal payments from your taxes??

Planning to add more than b4 to principal prepayments to save more on interest over life of loan to make up for the social security increase.

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