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Forbidden Speech, Left And Right


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2011 Dec 11, 2:18am   24,777 views  57 comments

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I'm reading Muzzled: The Assault On Honest Debate by Juan Williams, and it's pretty good. He points out that both right and left in America have certain positions that are censored though social pressure. Anyone taking these non-PC positions will be mocked and then excluded by their own social group, and may lose their job. Some examples of non-PC positions:

On the left, you may not say:

  • Islam is an extremely violent religion, and Mohammed raped, robbed, and murdered.
  • Abortion is obviously murder when the fetus can do things like distinguish its mother's voice from other voices, for example.
  • Black fathers often don't hang around, and black kids often shun anyone who does well in school for "acting white".
  • AIDS was spread mostly by promiscuous anal intercourse between men.
  • It's silly to say "African American", "Native American", "visually impaired", and "Happy Holidays" when everyone knows you mean "black", "Indian", "blind", and "Merry Christmas".

On the right, you may not say:

  • The ultra-low 15% capital gains and dividend tax rate is a giant giveaway to the rich at the expense of the 99%.
  • We don't like Obama mostly because he's black and has a Muslim name, not because of anything he has actually done.
  • Obamacare was created from Republican healthcare proposals, but because Obama got it passed, we hate it.
  • The war in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and there were no weapons of mass destruction. We should not be there.
  • The US has a much higher level of gun violence than other countries largely because of the NRA.

On both sides, you may not say, "You know, the other side has some valid points."

#politics

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51   Dan8267   2011 Dec 15, 1:08pm  

leoj707 says

Do all the cooking, from scratch, by hand -- OK, you can use the electric/gas stove-top/oven even if it is cheating a bit

Wash and dry all clothing by hand

Keep the house clean by hand

All child care done by you without the aid of anything electric or disposable (yes, wash by hand those cloth diapers and reuse them) -- hopefully you have kids, makes the experiment more fun

No use of indoor plumbing! all water must be carried into the house by you;

Damn, life before electricity and modern appliances sucked. In related news, have you hugged an engineer today? I think Leoj's posting proves that engineers have improved the quality of your life more than any politician or priest ever could.

52   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Dec 16, 1:09am  

Some interesting news from the UK:

The number of mothers with children under four who thought that family life would suffer if women worked full-time fell in the years before Tony Blair took office, dropping from 43 per cent in 1990 to 21 per cent in 1998. But by 2002 it was rising and in 2006 had soared to 37 per cent.

Similarly the number of women in the same category who agreed that most women want a home and children fell between 1994 and 2002 to 15 per cent.

But in 2006, the last time the question was asked in the survey, that number had rocketed to 32 per cent - higher even than back in 1986 when it stood at 20 per cent.

By far the biggest leap came when women were asked whether they agreed that men and women should have different roles.

In 1986, 40 per cent of women with children under four said 'yes', four years later that had plummeted to 13 per cent and by 2002 it had dropped still lower to 2 per cent.

In 2006, however, that had jumped back up to 17 per cent.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251873/What-women-want-2010-A-husband-wholl-main-breadwinner.html#ixzz1gibaqd9f

53   bdrasin   2011 Dec 16, 1:28am  

Dan8267 says

wog says

Call 50 plumbers in the San Francisco Bay Area and 50 plumbers who show up will be men. This is not an exaggeration.

That's because all the female plumbers work in the porn industry. I'm basing that assertion off of a cursory Google Image search of "female plumbers".

lol, thanks for a good morning laugh...

54   Dan8267   2011 Dec 18, 10:02am  

bdrasin says

Dan says

That's because all the female plumbers work in the porn industry. I'm basing that assertion off of a cursory Google Image search of "female plumbers".

lol, thanks for a good morning laugh...

Word of advice, don't Google Image Search "Rick Santorum".

55   ReasonNotFaith   2011 Dec 18, 12:44pm  

Dan8267 says

if you are talking about social or economic differences affected on race in America, it makes sense to say African American.

That's one are where I have to disagree with you Dan. African American implies you are of African descent and you personally immigrated here from Africa and became an American. It doesn't say anything about race (not all africans are black), and it doesn't say anything about people who's ancestors have lived on this continent for generations. The term black americans, or blacks, or black people, is much more accurate when trying to identify someone by their race. Confusing nationality for race in an effort to be politically correct just muddies the water, so to speak.

56   Dan8267   2011 Dec 18, 1:00pm  

ReasonNotFaith says

African American implies you are of African descent and you personally immigrated here from Africa and became an American.

I call myself an Italian American, but I did not immigrate here from Italy. Neither did my parents or grandparents. The farthest back I can trace my Italian heritage is New Jersey / NYC. So am I wrong to call myself an Italian American?

I also call myself an Irish American, but same story.

57   JFD3VET   2012 Feb 27, 9:54am  

A very interesting discussion on a subject which needs a lot more debate.

I would like to go one step further and bring up something that has not been discussed here, namely, what is the real forbidden speech in American society. If one decides to go into any profession and achieve a position of influence, be it public or private, one finds that there are a number of absolute truths that one must publically agree to.

They are in effect, a form of loyalty test, articles of faith that must be absolutely believed if one is to be at the top tier of society.

Among them are:

* The U.S. government had no forewarning of the attacks on Sept 11 2001.

* The HIV/ AIDS virus came from Monkeys

* There were no MIAs at the end of the Vietnam war.

* Ralph Nader spoiled the 2000 election in Florida.

* Ronald Reagan was the "Great Communicator"

* We have two political parties in the U.S.

And lastly, the linchpin of loyalty to the establishment-

* Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone nut and acted alone on 22 November, 1963.

And what is really shocking is that the leadership of both the political right and left, when all is said and done, absolutely support the above list of beliefs, especially the last one.

Should one in any way publically question any of the above, the gatekeepers of society will immediately do whatever is necessasry to halt your career. You will be denounced, denied advancement, and even removed from your position should you persist. You are considered a heretic, an outcast, or worst of all a "Conspiracy Theorist"

" I know of no land where there is such little freedom of speech and discussion as America"
Alexis de Tocqueville

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