Comment Policy


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The comment policy is Insult Another User, Get Suspended

  • Say whatever you want, just be polite about it.
  • It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
  • I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it, as long as you say it in a polite way.

If someone is deliberately insulting another user, please dislike their comment. Moderators will get notified of each dislike. A net three dislikes will put a comment into moderation, where it will get reviewed, and probably deleted.

Users who willfully insult another user will get suspended for a day. The sentence will double for each subsequent offense: 2 days, 4 days, 8 days...

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  1. elliemae


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    28   7:16am Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    American in Japan says

    OK...Who ignored Patrick??

    For some reason, I found this hilarious.

    I saw in the other forum where someone took a photo of a full toilet and thought it was disgusting... but when I re-read this forum just now, I realized that I started it.

    Wow. Behold the power that is me!

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    29   7:18am Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    elliemae says

    I saw in the other forum where someone took a photo of a full toilet and thought it was disgusting... but when I re-read this forum just now, I realized that I started it.

    http://www.ratemypoo.com

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    30   7:44am Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    The whole jail section should maybe have a background pic with bars in it.

    Maybe something like this:

    Or whatever you find that you really like.

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    31   8:21am Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Ooh, I like the bars! Will do. Shit flinging will also be allowed (and free) in Jail.

    Yes, one person is ignoring me. Seems fair that the rules I impose should apply to me too.

    I was up at midnight last night pissed at the work I have to do to deal with users who can't play nicely, so I deleted the three worst offenders:

    * The guy who just posts hate for realtors, insults users by calling them bitch realtors, and continuously changes his name and icon.
    * Shrekgrinch, again. I just say no to "libtard" and "libruhl".
    * GameOver, who freaked out about the concept of Jail because he was sure he'd be in it.

    The first guy had 31 ignores, which is a record by far. Next highest is Apocalypsefuck, but in spite of talking about the coming cannibal anarchy, actually seems like a good guy.

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    32   1:33pm Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)  

    Patrick says

    Ooh, I like the bars! Will do. Shit flinging will also be allowed (and free) in Jail.

    Sounds like a typical Friday night.

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    33   3:54pm Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    ShrekBastard says

    How many ignores did I have?

    I think it was 15.

    ShrekBastard says

    And why can't people just ignore people they don't like and leave it at that?

    Because I keep getting complaints and have to explain things over and over. More work for Patrick = ill-tempered moderator.

    ShrekBastard says

    I don't recall seeing me in 'jail'. Was I? Or was due process as outlined here ignored in my case? Just wanna know.

    No one has been in Jail yet. Have to fix up a few things to get that working.

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    34   8:20pm Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    "And why can't people just ignore people they don't like and leave it at that?"

    ie. "Why can't I just shit all over your site as much as I want?"

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    35   8:36pm Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    Apocolypsefuck is damn funny - with his dark, forboding sense of humor he gets his points across. And he never personally attacks, which is more than I can say for the other guys.

    ShrekGingrich wanted dueprocess? Why doesn't he get his own site and get his own due process on?

    You've spent a chunk of time on the babysitting, hopefully it will stop.

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    36   8:40pm Thu 9 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    So, I just looked at the users, and I've got the most number of "dislikes." 33 - and nomo has less.

    I'm better than nomo! nah nah nah nah nah nah!

    I suspect its from those people who were banned, but I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. Btw, I was noticed at a stoplight in Vegas, a guy waved and mouthed "elliemae" to me as he passed (and he used more than one finger). It's the bumpersticker.

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    37   7:52am Fri 10 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Patrick says

    Because I keep getting complaints and have to explain things over and over. More work for Patrick = ill-tempered moderator.

    Patrick should focus on Patrick.net Achieving (left right) Unity for personal enlightenment and the benefit of mankind. The readers should take responsibility for rehabilitating those focused on destruction. Even if writers as extreme as Tony are jailed, They are still accessible to express their MIND.

    What would a Jailed writer have to do to end up in the HUNG sector ?

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    38   8:52am Fri 10 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Yeah, I'm not sure the sheer number of ignores a person has on him is a good indication of trolling, which is what this is all really about.

    The fact that Apocalypsefuck now has the highest ignore count, after the recent executions of realtor hater, Shrek, and Game Over, pretty much disproves that a high ignore count indicates trolling.

    Plus, I can imagine trolls collaborating to ignore certain users to get them jailed, especially if you automated the process.

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    39   9:03am Fri 10 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Patrick says

    I was up at midnight last night pissed at the work I have to do to deal with users who can't play nicely, so I deleted the three worst offenders:

    * The guy who just posts hate for realtors, insults users by calling them bitch realtors, and continuously changes his name and icon.
    * Shrekgrinch, again. I just say no to "libtard" and "libruhl".
    * GameOver, who freaked out about the concept of Jail because he was sure he'd be in it.

    Oh, no! You got rid of all their comments again, too. There's a purpose to keeping up bad arguments for bad philosophies. It makes sure that other people don't follow those arguments.

    It would be better to mark the user as "suspended". Create a table, say SuspendedUsers:

    create table SuspendedUsers (UserId int not null, DateTime ReleaseDateTime);

    Then if the user tries to log in with the correct email/password, you don't log them in, but rather redirect to a page saying "You're account is suspended until 2012-02-11 11:00 UTC or 2012-02-11 11:00 PDT.

    I think this would punish the offenders more since they can't just reregister and they can't see their unread forum lists, but it would preserve the threads. Plus, the release is automated since you just compare the current DateTime against the max(ReleaseDateTime) for the user whenever the user tries to log in.

    And you can show everyone the number of times the user has been suspended.

    select count(ReleaseDateTime) from SupendedUser where UserId = ?

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    40   9:06am Fri 10 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Patrick says

    * GameOver, who freaked out about the concept of Jail because he was sure he'd be in it.

    Darn it. I lost a friend!

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    Patrick says

    * The guy who just posts hate for realtors, insults users by calling them bitch realtors, and continuously changes his name and icon.

    I had that guy on ignore from day one. He was an obvious troll.

    Patrick says

    * Shrekgrinch, again. I just say no to "libtard" and "libruhl".

    No big loss; he can still use his MarsAttacks persona if he wants.

    Patrick says

    * GameOver, who freaked out about the concept of Jail because he was sure he'd be in it.

    This is at least his third banning. I linked to some of his previous trolls that were preserved through the quoting system, and he freaked out.

    What I would like to know is who posts under multiple usernames from the same IP address? Any chance of posting that?

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    42   9:34am Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    I've removed all my IGNORE settings to see if the coast is clear. Thanks!

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    43   9:42am Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Dan8267 says

    Oh, no! You got rid of all their comments again, too. There's a purpose to keeping up bad arguments for bad philosophies. It makes sure that other people don't follow those arguments.

    It would be better to mark the user as "suspended". Create a table, say SuspendedUsers:

    You're right. I should not have deleted all that. The problem is that I have this "nuke" button and it's so tempting to use it. Wipes out everything about that user. I use it all the time for spammers.

    I really have to get a "suspend" button working.

    Nomograph says

    What I would like to know is who posts under multiple usernames from the same IP address? Any chance of posting that?

    Yes, I'll have an "aliases" link soon. It will just show all users who posted from the same IP address, so it won't be perfect. Two people at the same company might have the same IP because they go through the same proxy server.

    Vicente says

    I've removed all my IGNORE settings to see if the coast is clear. Thanks!

    Probably pretty clear now.

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    44   10:54am Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike (1)  

    I just reset all my "ignores" to none. If I get out of hand, can I ignore myself?

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    45   10:57am Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    "My Friends Will Sing No More" Awesome, Dynamic !

    At the risk of sounding Facetious. Why not add a button so a persona could not access what Is written ( about them )

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    46   1:45pm Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    TMAC54 says

    Why not add a button so a persona could not access what Is written ( about them )

    Couldn't he see it simply by either not logging in or logging in another another account?

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    47   1:46pm Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)  

    Patrick says

    The problem is that I have this "nuke" button and it's so tempting to use it.

    Please don't ever run for president. :)

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    Patrick says

    Yes, I'll have an "aliases" link soon. It will just show all users who posted from the same IP address, so it won't be perfect.

    Awesome.

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    49   2:38pm Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    elliemae says

    I just reset all my "ignores" to none. If I get out of hand, can I ignore myself?

    Eschew Obfuscation

    Sorry, ignore won't work on yourself. Kind of like real life.

    TMAC54 says

    Why not add a button so a persona could not access what Is written ( about them )

    If they just logged out, they could then see everything. Unless I do some kind of "private chat room" thing. I could do that.

    OK, no more nuking of real humans.

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    Dan8267 says

    Couldn't he see it simply by either not logging in or logging in another another account?

    Yes Dan, By the signs on the doors, I intended to imply Overkill.
    Instead of the Jailing terminology, even suspended. How about using Real Estate terminology. If we violate comment code, we would be "Quieted"
    If that is too boring "SHARK BAIT" might be used

    I still believe enlightening the jailed, or the suspended, or "the shark Bait, as to the type of rule that was broken, might allow them to recoup and benefit.

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    51   9:10pm Sun 12 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Actually, I'm sure that people are aware when they're obnoxious - and that's what they're going for.

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    elliemae says

    Actually, I'm sure that people are aware when they're obnoxious - and that's what they're going for.

    I've never understood being an asshole to strangers on the Internet. Sure, if someone's constantly being a dick, you call their bullshit for what it is. But what is up with people who deliberately troll and start flame wars? Seems like you'd have to be a real loser to get your kicks annoying random people.

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    53   6:55am Mon 13 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    We can speculate as to why certain individuals high jack threads, only to post senseless destructive criticism.
    do they just seek Attention ? Schadenfreude ? ? ?

    I ass u me Patrick would like to increase circulation. No ?
    I enjoy perspectives from the entire I.Q. range in any culture. But I simply look elsewhere if the information has turned from enlightening to an infantile food fight.

    I would like to see certain negative behavior placed in a "QUIET" section by the readers, (via several readers clicks) not exclusively one editor.

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    54   8:02am Mon 20 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    Quiet zone great idea. Was taking it outside not working?

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    elliemae says

    So, I just looked at the users, and I've got the most number of "dislikes." 33 - and nomo has less.

    How could you have an ocean of dislikes? you are the nice lady who is smart and even tempered. You have a dog for your picture. A happy dog. How can that be???

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    bg says

    How could you have an ocean of dislikes? you are the nice lady who is smart and even tempered. You have a dog for your picture. A happy dog. How can that be???

    Sometimes I get a bit mean... especially when a hijacker makes every thread about politics. I also have a problem with people who act condescending, yet aren't able to get their message across due to grammar or spelling. A few errors, no problem. With so many spell checks available, there's no excuse for so many errors a post is difficult to read.

    But I get what you mean - I'm so flippin' awesome, I can't imagine why someone wouldn't like me.

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    I suspect that a few people "dislike" any political statement that doesn't confirm their beliefs. For example, a conservative would dislike any statement that climate change is real and man-made, and a liberal would dislike any statement that Obama has failed in any policy area.

    Let's face it. America has become so polarized that people only want to hear things that confirm their own beliefs. And if you say anything that even slightly goes against their beliefs then they conclude that you are their polar opposite and are completely evil.

    Luckily there are still some people in our country capable of rationally discussing controversial issues. And those debates are the greatest. I have far more respect for someone who rationally debates an issue, regardless of whether or not I agree with his position, than someone who resorts to personal attacks and deliberate misinterpretations.

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    I just dole out dislikes by just making it known.
    And folks are more than welcome to reciprocate.
    If I were interested in being rated and graded, I would have a Facebook account.

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    elliemae says

    But I get what you mean - I'm so flippin' awesome, I can't imagine why someone wouldn't like me.

    I am afflicted with the same disease. When you are well-liked, it's like the go%&*^#$#mned paparazzi everywhere you go.

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    CL says

    I am afflicted with the same disease. When you are well-liked, it's like the go%&*^#$#mned paparazzi everywhere you go.

    If you're not a celebrity, they're called "stalkers."

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    Can you add a disagree link. I had been hitting "dislike" when I disagree but I dont want people thrown in jail simply because i disagree w/ them. So I guess Ill stop hitting the dislike link.

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    gromitmpl says

    Can you add a disagree link

    ...and perhaps an "I don't totally agree, nor do I disagree - in fact, I'm completely apathetic about this post."

    While we're at it, we need an "I absolutely love this post," an "I'm having a bad day so I'd like to take it out on someone anonymously over the interwebs by clicking a negative for their post."

    Finally, I'd like one that says, "I believe in unicorns." Patrick, please get right on this.

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    63   4:08pm Sun 25 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Don't worry, no one goes to jail unless they're clearly intending to insult other users. You can dislike all you want. If something gets a net 3 dislikes and goes into moderation, I'll probably just approve it again right away and it will get out of moderation.

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    TMAC54 says

    Patrick says

    Because I keep getting complaints and have to explain things over and over. More work for Patrick = ill-tempered moderator.

    Patrick should focus on Patrick.net Achieving (left right) Unity for personal enlightenment and the benefit of mankind. The readers should take responsibility for rehabilitating those focused on destruction. Even if writers as extreme as Tony are jailed, They are still accessible to express their MIND.

    What would a Jailed writer have to do to end up in the HUNG sector ?

    How much invested ? How much back ? What's the risk ?

    They said you was hung.

    And they was right!

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    65   9:32pm Sun 25 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    You can't get rid of apocalypsefuck! That guy is hilarious.

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    I didn't get rid of Apocalypsefuck. I don't know why he hasn't posted lately.

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    67   9:40pm Tue 27 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Patrick says

    I didn't get rid of Apocalypsefuck. I don't know why he hasn't posted lately.

    Can't you just conjure him up? How dare he take time off from us?

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