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20 million people ages 18 to 34 live at house with their parents


By Mick Russom   Follow   Fri, 1 Mar 2013, 3:34pm PST   1,364 views   28 comments   Watch (2)   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike  

Seems that living at home under age 30 is up 45% - 65% depending on how you count it.--

20 million people ages 18 to 34 live at home with their parents

The current severe recession has pushed the extended family in the U.S. into a role well appreciated world wide -- an economic safety net.

The recession, loss of jobs and homes, high cost of living and growing debt are forcing adults to turn back to their parents for financial help. These boomerang kids, as sociologists and psychologists call them, are the latest change in the ever-shifting landscape of the American family. Intergenerational households -- parents, their children and sometimes grandparents -- were common in the 19th century. That changed early in the 20th century, when sons and daughters married younger -- sometimes in their teens -- and quickly moved out to create their own households. Then the Great Depression forced families back together. They once again grew apart during various lush economic periods that followed.
According to 2008 Census figures, 20 million people ages 18 to 34 live at home with their parents -- 30 percent of that age group. Researchers for the Network on Transitions to Adulthood, a group financed by the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, found that since the 1970s, the number of twentysomethings living with their parents has increased by 50 percent. Of those who moved out of the house by age 22, 16 percent returned home before they hit 35, the researchers found.

Almost half of June 2008's college graduates had planned to move home after graduation, according to a survey by the employment Web site Monster.com.

David A. Morrison, president and founder of Twentysomething, a consulting firm that researches young adults, said the last time he noticed this phenomenon was during the recession that hit the country around 2001. But the severity of this economic downturn has forced children of all age groups, single or married, back home, he said. The dynamic is different.

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zzyzzx   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 12:27am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 1

Already on my long list of reasons not to have kids.

New Renter   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 1:14am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 2

Buy your kids a van...down by the river.

Mr Happygoluckofus   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 3:10am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 3

That explains why Generation whine has a hard on for Older people.
The guy who makes the rules of the house, is always a DICK.

26 years old with a bachelors in Liberal arts, and can't watch "the onion network" because Dad is watching the The McLaughlin Group, then the Rockford files.

Quigley   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 3:52am PST   Share   Quote   Like (6)   Dislike     Comment 4

I was thinking of buying my kids a boat and slip with hookups. They could live on board and do charters to pay the slip fee, maintenance, hookups, and maybe even some of their college expenses. Then we could still go fishing now and then. What a life that would be for all of us!

curious2   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 3:56am PST   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 5

Meanwhile, the federal government does everything possible to prop up housing prices above where a free market would clear.

epitaph   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 4:01am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 6

CaptainShuddup says

That explains why Generation whine has a hard on for Older people.

My favorite part is that you hear boomers complaining that kids these days have no ambition.

lostand confused   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 4:03am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike (1)     Comment 7

This is waht family values is supposed to be-family through thick and thin -because life was tough and unpredictable. Then the govt/nanny state stepped in and ruined everything and the republicans try and mandate it by laws.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 5:01am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 8

epitaph says

CaptainShuddup says

That explains why Generation whine has a hard on for Older people.

My favorite part is that you hear boomers complaining that kids these days have no ambition.

Yes, from the generation of pot smokers.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 5:01am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 9

Mick Russom says

Seems that living at home under age 30 is up 45% - 65% depending on how you count it.--

Exactly what are the different ways of counting it?

drudometkin   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 5:10am PST   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 10

Nothing new here. Lets see there's high inflation(how much was gas in 1999? 99cents?), wage deflation, record student debt, high unemployment, outsourcing, high house prices. You have to be pretty smart and lucky to be well off in your twenties now a days.

Mr Happygoluckofus   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 5:59am PST   Share   Quote   Like (5)   Dislike     Comment 11

To be honest I hope my Daughters never leave the house.

Dan8267 says

Yes, from the generation of pot smokers.

But at least the generation of pot smokers, knew there would have to be dues paid before we got our shit together. We didn't blame others for our lack of funds and prospects. I was always told by the older folks... "Just be patient, you'll get your shit together eventually. Just don't do anything stupid before you do. "

And that's just it, youngins today, think coming of age, is some automatic milestone for having their shit together. Then to top it off, every damn decision they make is "Something Stupid".

Get a face tattoo (Check)
Post a nude video(girls) on the internet(Check)
Post a video of you breaking a law on the internet(Check)
Get a pit bull when you can't even take care of your self(Check)
Buy a 25 foot python when you have a 3 month old infant in the house(Check)
Buy a car with a payment that is more than your parents mortgage was when they first bought a house.(Check)
Berate your boss on an internet video(Check)

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 7:25am PST   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 12

CaptainShuddup says

And that's just it, youngins today, think coming of age, is some automatic milestone for having their shit together.

The Millennials raised by Baby Boomers were told that they were special, could do anything, and given awards for non-accomplishments. The Boomers did this because they all thought that confidence was by far the most important thing a person could have, and if a person had confidence, he or she would succeed regardless of how untalented, incompetent, or lazy that person was. Every Boomer parent of a Millennial drank the confidence is everything kool-aid. That is why the Millennials think they have paid their dues already.

Personally, I think the whole "pay your dues" thing is bullshit though. As if the person or corporation that you are paying dues to is going to have jack-shit loyalty to you anyway if you slave for less wages than you deserve for a few years.

Yes, young professionals have to excel in order to compete in the world. They also have to be fierce negotiators in order to avoid being taken advantage of.

By the way, the Millennials aren't any more lazy than Gen X or the Boomers. I remember thinking throughout elementary and junior high and college, "there is no one in my class that is going to be real competition". And it's true that very few people in most professions are any good at what they do.

kmo722   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 10:30am PST   Share   Quote   Like (3)   Dislike     Comment 13

Father of two and not a perfect parent, but my kids have mostly gotten the message.. has not been easy for them in comparison to me, but still..

One thing I've managed to pass on is the "life extracts work" lesson.. bottom line there is that life extracts work from us all.. those with great intellectual gifts don't, generally, have to work as hard as the rest of us, but everyone has to work, because, in the end, life just demands it... the smarter ones seem to figure this out early and do the bulk of their life's work up front in the earlier years of life .. others who think they can outsmart life eventually find out just the opposite and do the bulk of their life's work later in life.. both paths work out in the end.. the trick is not to fight the fact that life will extract work from you, so deal with it and manage it such that the work you do either brings you happiness or, absent happiness, some measure of monetary reward to offset the unhappiness that the work is bringing to you..

curious2   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 11:06am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 14

kmo722 says

the smarter ones seem to...do the bulk of their life's work up front in the earlier years of life .. others who think they can outsmart life eventually find out just the opposite and do the bulk of their life's work later in life.. both paths work out in the end..

...as John Maynard Keynes put it, "In the long run, we're all dead." I wonder though if some of the recent difference results from (a) the elderly getting subsidized by the young and (b) the young seeing that, even with subsidies, most of the elderly seem cursed with what Kurt Vonnegut would have called a life not worth living and an iron will to live. Before the rise of the medical-industrial complex, most people remained mostly alert and functional until the end; this generation has visited too many elderly ancestors rotting alive in nursing homes. How hard would anyone run towards that dubious prize, when the alternative is to enjoy life while they can?

mell   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 11:29am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 15

CaptainShuddup says

That explains why Generation whine has a hard on for Older people.
The guy who makes the rules of the house, is always a DICK.

26 years old with a bachelors in Liberal arts, and can't watch "the onion network" because Dad is watching the The McLaughlin Group, then the Rockford files.  

Matlock!

everything   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 12:22pm PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 16

Gen X'er here, could not afford wife & kids, could have tried harder maybe, I've always been employed, always. I'll be lucky if I can swing retirement one day as quick as living expenses are heading up. Owning a house?, not in the city, no way, as I've said before I can rent for about half the cost of just the property taxes. I see people living with the parents all over the place, some wait until the parents kick it, or head to the nursing home and just keep the house, sometimes losing it or letting it get really run down. This may become more the norm, life is pretty expensive, some use the opportunity as a springboard as you can save incredible amounts of money when you've got free rent.

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 12:52pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 17

curious2 says

John Maynard Keynes put it, "In the long run, we're all dead."

Like most things Keynes said, this is stupid. OK, we're all dead in the long run. So that means we shouldn't get a degree, fund our IRAs, take care of our health? What a totally stupid statement and false dichotomy.

JodyChunder   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 1:44pm PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 18

Dan8267 says

OK, we're all dead in the long run. So that means we shouldn't get a degree, fund our IRAs, take care of our health? What a totally stupid statement and false dichotomy.

I see it more as a friendly reminder of the finiteness of things -- not a blank check for fucking-off. It suggests that one should try to pursue happiness in the meantime, without slavishly adhering to role and schematic and uniform desires/worries. I think more people need to take a moment to reflect on these themes.

carrieon   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 6:16pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 19

According to 2008 Census figures, 20 million people ages 18 to 34 live at home with their parents -- 30 percent of that age group.

30% sounds familiar. In this age group, 30% have no income, 40% get by on minimum wage and only 30 % have a job with the means to buy a house, buy a new car, or any chance of having a middle class marriage and family.

errc   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 7:45pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 20

I moved out when I was 17, I know 100s of people in this age group, I can only think of one person that lives with a parent and he might be 35 now

Dan8267   befriend   ignore   Mon, 4 Mar 2013, 11:45pm PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 21

JodyChunder says

I see it more as a friendly reminder of the finiteness of things -- not a blank check for fucking-off.

Yeah, but people always use it as an excuse for ignoring anything long-term, as if the short-term is all that matters.

P N Dr Lo R   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 5:04am PST   Share   Quote   Like (2)   Dislike     Comment 22

curious2 says

Before the rise of the medical-industrial complex, most people remained mostly alert and functional until the end; this generation has visited too many elderly ancestors rotting alive in nursing homes

This brings to mind the recent story about the 87 year old lady living in the retirement community, not nursing home, who collapsed in a public area. An employee who was not a nurse called 911 which instructed her to begin CPR until the ambulance arrived. The employee refused, saying it was against the facility's policy. The 911 operator got into high gear asking if someone, anyone could begin CPR and the answer was still no. When the EMT arrived, the lady was dead. This seems cold-blooded at first, but when you think of it, people used to keel over and die and that was the end of it, especially at 87. The entire impulse today is to keep that heart beating, hang the cost. If they'd gotten her to the hospital, she would have gone onto life support for no telling how long and again at what cost and still probably had no decent quality of life in the meantime. When her daughter was finally reached, it turned out the lady had signed a "Do Not Resucitate" documenet and was perfectly satisfied with they way her mother had been treated.

curious2   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 5:15am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 23

P N Dr Lo R says

This seems cold-blooded at first, but when you think of it, people used to fall down and die and that was the end of it, especially at 87. The entire impulse today is to keep that heart beating, hang the cost... When her daughter was finally reached, it turned out the lady had signed a "Do Not Resucitate" documenet and was perfectly satisfied with they way her mother had been treated.

The Guardian has a good article on this story. I don't think it's cold-blooded at all, and I personally carry an Advance Healthcare Directive saying I don't want their "help", but I seem to be in the minority on this. It's much more lucrative to keep the heart beating as long as possible. The medical-industrial complex has preyed upon people's fear of death the same way churches have always done, and now we are required via Obamacare to pay all we can afford for medical spending, even at the expense of other priorities that make more of a difference (safer cars, checking the house for radon, etc.). If having a healthy adult descendant at home spares the parents the eventual indignity and expense of nursing homes, they'll be glad of it.

Mick Russom   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 6:02am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 24

errc says

I can only think of one person that lives with a parent and he might be 35 now

Now that your subjective reality has been made known, I'll go back and change the article to read: less than 1 million live with their parents because you know that only less than 1% of your friends live at home.

errc   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 6:32am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 25

Mick Russom says

errc says

I can only think of one person that lives with a parent and he might be 35 now

Now that your subjective reality has been made known, I'll go back and change the article to read: less than 1 million live with their parents because you know that only less than 1% of your friends live at home.

You wrote the article?

The Professor   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 9:06am PST   Share   Quote   Like (1)   Dislike     Comment 26

kmo722 says

One thing I've managed to pass on is the "life extracts work" lesson.. bottom line there is that life extracts work from us all.. those with great intellectual gifts don't, generally, have to work as hard as the rest of us, but everyone has to work, because, in the end, life just demands it

It has been my experience that the harder you work the less hard you have to work.

The student that excels has to have both talent and work hard. With much talent a little hard work is still needed. With little talent a lot of hard work is required to succeed. Success requires hard work and talent. Those with much talent that work really hard we call genius.

Those that don't work hard end up in some dead end situation where they are required to struggle in some way every day.

Success is not a destination you arrive at it is an altitude that you fly at.

thomaswong.1986   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 9:54am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 27

Mick Russom says

20 million people ages 18 to 34 live at house with their parents

if this is the case then dont expect rents fo go up anytime soon...18-34 are prime candidates as renters.. if your reducing the demand.. there is already too much supply.

jvolstad   befriend   ignore   Tue, 5 Mar 2013, 11:17am PST   Share   Quote   Like   Dislike     Comment 28

I have a job and free housing for these people.

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