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Romney against federal disaster relief


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  1. PolishKnight


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    1   6:23pm Mon 29 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike (1)  

    Another way of phrasing it: Romney for states rights and authority.

    How about that federal defense of marriage act? Does everyone in the bay area think THAT'S a great idea since it came from the federal level? Or Federal laws against California medicinal marijuana. Yep, when someone else is ramming their laws down your throat, it's so much more fun!

    On a neutral level, I'd lean towards a federalization of disaster funds since disasters are often spread across state borders and impact interstate trade. In addition, while disasters are nearly always occurring SOMEWHERE, at the state level they occur less often so preparedness would be difficult.

    How about this idea; Let's federalize housing. Let's have all housing controlled by the federal government and this would end homelessness and work as effectively as the educational system has made the USA's inner city schools the top performing in the world (note: sarcasm alert!) We could start by taking those luxury apartments in the Bay area and sharing them with residents of Oakland and other regions. It will also enhance the diversity of the region. What do you think Tovarisch? Your region could really use some more diversity and you're privileged... Why do you need PRIVATE housing? I think 4 of you to a one bedroom apartment should leave you with plenty of space. (Hmmm, that probably would be a step UP from what I heard of conditions in the Bay Area. I laugh when recruiters ask me if I "want" to work in the region...)

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    2   10:00pm Mon 29 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Oh yeah, we've heard that argument before. Here's how it ended up:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57501394/la-gov-bobby-jindal-asks-president-obama-for-more-tropical-storm-isaac-aid/

    La. Gov. Bobby Jindal asks President Obama for more Tropical Storm Isaac aid

  3. marcus


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    3   10:15pm Mon 29 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Right now, Romney's campaign is watching Obama's everty move in hopes that they can feel the slightest legitimacy in claiming that Obama is somehow screwing up with Hurricane Sandy.

    Romney will probably have the sense to wait until the storm is over though, unlike the attack on the Benghazi consulate.

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    4   10:45pm Mon 29 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    That's off to a bad start:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/chris-christie-hurricane-sandy_n_2036054.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

    "Chris Christie Praises Obama For Hurricane Sandy Preparation"

    Of course in a few days you'll probably be hearing from the Romney camp how Chris Christie hated obamas sandy prep...

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    5   10:55pm Tue 30 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Oh no it's off to a better start, Romney is donating supplies. Oh wait, he's only donating in SWING states:

    Romney Donating Sandy Supplies To GOP Swing States — Not NY
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/romney-donating-sandy-supplies-only-to-gop-swing-states-not-nj-or-ny/politics/2012/10/30/52648

    But its okay, its okay, he's cancelling his campaign stops to instead hold rallys for the disaster. Oh wait, he's holding the rally's at the same time and place as the 'cancelled' campaign stops:
    http://americablog.com/2012/10/romney-shows-campaign-video-at-hurricane-sandy-relief-event.html

    Oh wait, all the relief events are in SWING states:
    Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio: funny how Mitt Romney's 'storm relief events' are all in pivotal swing states
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100187102/wisconsin-iowa-ohio-funny-how-mitt-romneys-storm-relief-events-are-all-in-pivotal-swing-states/

    Oh wait, he's now for FEMA:
    http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/mitt_flips_on_fema_now_would_keep_it/?

    But wait, he's giving people a place to donate supplies. Oh wait, its photo ops, and it seems to be stuff the red cross doesn't need:
    Romney forces people to wait more than an hour to donate food so he could get there to "accept" the donations and get photographed
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/30/1152540/-Romney-lines-everybody-up-to-give-him-stuff-the-Red-Cross-says-it-doesn-t-want

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    6   10:55pm Tue 30 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Oh wait, he's not answering questions about FEMA:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/mitt-romney-fema_n_2044213.html

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    7   11:10pm Tue 30 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    In 2004, Republicans had a field day calling John Kerry (genuine war hero) a flip flopper, "For it before he was against it", blah blah blah. That they can now shamelessly line up behind this blatant flim-flam con man should rank as one of the great acts of collective chutzpah ever.

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    8   8:27am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    Where did all the Republicans go who were standing up beating their chests about how the individual states or charities should be providing the support?
    insert sounds of crickets here

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    9   9:01am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Looks like this is yet another instance of Romney saying something he probably wishes he had not. Just like his comments about Chrysler, this latest revelation further reveals why he seems to make rather bad decisions and the reason he's likely to lose the election.

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    10   9:05am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Why is it the responsibility of all the poor broke flyover states to foot the bill for the yuck yucks that choose to live on the coasts?

    Why would people root against their own best interests?

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    11   9:15am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    errc says

    Why is it the responsibility of all the poor broke flyover states to foot the bill for the yuck yucks that choose to live on the coasts?

    Why would people root against their own best interests?

    Because next time it might be us helping you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornadoes_of_2012

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    12   9:16am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Willard Mitt Romney wants everything to be controlled by state-level or even better privatized. FEMA should be privatized so that corporations can reap big profits every time a disaster strikes. He wants to privatize Medicare so insurance companies can strip all assets from the elderly (lots of them paid off their homes). They would be happy to insure an 89 year old grandpa that sees his doctor daily. Imagine the profits! FEMA should be run and paid for by the states so it can come (just like Medicare) off the federal budget. And the banks should be completely de-regulated so they can so whatever they want to maximize their profits. And the rich should be taxed less so that they can have MORE AFTER TAX INCOME without hiring any extra workers. Business will be booming under Romney! Harvest time!

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    13   9:23am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    errc says

    Why is it the responsibility of all the poor broke flyover states to foot the bill for the yuck yucks that choose to live on the coasts?
    Why would people root against their own best interests?

    How is helping your fellow man in a time of crisis against your own best interests?? You've got to be kidding me.

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    14   9:43am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    gbenson says

    Where did all the Republicans go who were standing up beating their chests about how the individual states or charities should be providing the support?

    Their thoughts about that are in the same place as 99.999% of all the other republican ideas and beliefs..........only inside their head, because they never existed in reality.

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    15   10:16am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    If you guys are looking for republicans to jump up and defend Mott Romney, you'll be sadly disappointed. Most republicans didnt want the man for their candidate, and feel they've been somehow tricked into the current situation. Such is two-party politics. Will you vote for the douchbag or the turd sandwich?
    But!
    But!
    These same reluctant right-leaning voters will still vote for the Mormon bastard BECAUSE HE'S NOT OBAMA!
    Obama is their worst case scenario, so voting for a second tier flip flopper politician seems like the better choice.
    And they're serious.

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    16   10:28am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Quigley says

    These same reluctant right-leaning voters will still vote for the Mormon bastard BECAUSE HE'S NOT OBAMA!
    Obama is their worst case scenario, so voting for a second tier flip flopper politician seems like the better choice.

    Yup, the leg humpers of the right wing that hate Obama which is primarily because of the color of his skin, will NEVER praise or support Romney, but will constantly trash Obama and will vote for Romney just because there is a R behind his name. Those same leg humpers unfortunately have children and can/do vote. It's no wonder our country is in the shape that it is. The dumbshits FINALLY got it through their limited brain that Obama wasn't going to take away their guns, right after they went out and bought a bunch of them at greatly inflated prices. Supposedly the republican crystal ball of wishful thinking tells them that Obama will take away their guns, but only in his second term.

    IOKIYAR

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    17   11:19am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  
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    18   11:30am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    PolishKnight says

    Yep, when someone else is ramming their laws down your throat, it's so much more fun!

    What exactly do you mean by "laws"?

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    19   11:30am Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    wait its okay, Romney is now communicating with the red cross.

    Oh, he's asking them to break their rules for him.

    Obama Goes To Red Cross To Thank Them. Romney Tells Red Cross To Break Their Rules For His Campaign.
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/obama-goes-to-red-cross-to-thank-them-romney-tells-red-cross-to-break-their-rules-for-his-campaign/politics/2012/10/31/52671

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    20   2:36pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  
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    21   2:54pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    tatupu70 says

    errc says

    Why is it the responsibility of all the poor broke flyover states to foot the bill for the yuck yucks that choose to live on the coasts?

    Why would people root against their own best interests?

    How is helping your fellow man in a time of crisis against your own best interests?? You've got to be kidding me.

    Because every dollar you take from me by force to help the millionares that own all that beachfront property, is one less dollar I have to spend on me and my own best interests,,,,I know you assume you know better than I what my own best interests are,,,but truth is you don't.

    Id rather help the homeless in my local community, then some hyper levered asshole with a beachfront property at sea level on the jersey shore. They sure don't mind raping us 3k+ a week to rent the damned place for a week in the summer. I mean, they surely earned it fair and square, didn't they?

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    22   7:31pm Wed 31 Oct 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Wait its good, Romney's supporters are finally coming through for... Oh. Wait. Romney's campaign bought relief supplies so he could pass them to people so he could be photographed taking them...

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/10/5000-shopping-run-walmart-turned-romneys-campaign-stop-relief-event/58529/

    In.. Ohio.

    Fuck guys, I could just do this until the end of the election without pause and without trying. And im certain bs like this will continue without pause. its emabarrassing, can you please just admit your candidate is a fucking jackass and get it done with?

    Just.. Say it. It's okay, you'll feel better after the release... It's okay...

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    23   6:53am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Okay, finally, Romney comes through to let people know he understands the impact this storm is having on people...

    Oh, wait

    "Romney compares Sandy relief to cleaning up after high-school football game"

    http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/10/31/romney-compares-sandy-relief-to-cleaning-up-after-high-school-football-game/

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    24   6:59am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Also, errc, you have no idea what an utter jackass you're sounding like right now do you? Here's a reminder

    https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+damage&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Mn6SUIfLIMOziwLiu4CQCw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=644

    And I bet your "helping out the local community" amounts to exactly zero. Just sayin'

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    25   7:09am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    It's obviously the hedonistic ways of the Dems that caused this storm, and now Obama's fault that FEMA is struggling to come up with $. It's been "underfunded" (from some fucking website, don't care which one) since Katrina stripped it of so many $$$.

    The article said that hopefully people from the Northern states haven't purchased flood insurance sufficient to cover their losses - the national flood insurance program can't afford it. Unfortunately, those damn people in the gulf states were smart enough to buy it and that's concerning.

    They have raised the premiums on the program (okay, that seems fair) but those $ haven't yet be reallized. So, it's possible that this storm will cause further borrowing from the program in order to help these people, many of whom will never recover economically or personally from their massive losses.

    Hey - as long as it can be used as a political point by Karl Rove and his piece of shit PAC, it's worth it for the "little people" (99%) to bear some pain.

    Wonder where Rove was while New York burned?

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    It's all Hoover's Fault!

    Before him there was no such thing as federal disaster aid and we somehow managed to survive.

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    27   9:37am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike  

    zzyzzx says

    It's all Hoover's Fault!

    Before him there was no such thing as federal disaster aid and we somehow managed to survive.

    This is another issue where if Romney expressed your views, he'd lose the election in a landslide and Obama would win all 50 states.

    It's the reason you're a dangerous radical.

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    28   11:14am Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Mitt is a sales man, he'll tell you what you want to hear.

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    errc says

    Because every dollar you take from me by force to help the millionares that own all that beachfront property, is one less dollar I have to spend on me and my own best interests,,,,I know you assume you know better than I what my own best interests are,,,but truth is you don't.
    Id rather help the homeless in my local community, then some hyper levered asshole with a beachfront property at sea level on the jersey shore. They sure don't mind raping us 3k+ a week to rent the damned place for a week in the summer. I mean, they surely earned it fair and square, didn't they?

    Wow--a little bitter are we? Does it help you to rationalize your stance against helping your fellow man by imagining that only "hyper levered assholes" got hurt by this disaster? Because I can assure you that it's not the case.

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    30   1:09pm Thu 1 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I don't know many poor people that own RE down the jersey shore

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    Why should Romney support it? He is for austerity measure. Isn't he? I thought the Tea Bags were all for non-government involvement. Oh, they want help from the cash strapped government now?

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    Nobody says

    He is for austerity measure

    Brrrhhemmm, by "austerity" he means increase military spending and let the northeast sink in their frankenstorm.

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    FortWayne says

    Mitt is a sales man, he'll tell you what you want to hear.

    And the corollary is the more BS a salesman spews at you, the worse his product is.

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    Melmakian says

    ...yet another outlandish claim by the Duck that is totally unsubstantiated nor could ever be.

    It's an extremely accurate claim. If Romney said "A natural disaster is not a federal government concern and we will not be helping anyone with financial support" he'd lose the election. In fact he'd lose ALL elections from now until forever.

    However this is EXACTLY the sentiment of many teabaggers including. zzyzz and probably you too Shrek although you wont admit it. You'll say something like "I support using federal money for X but using it for Y is outrageous because the government shouldn't be involved" thereby showing extreme hypocrisy and ego-centrism.

    Melmakian says

    In your world, someone who stops the government from forcing mattress makers from putting those 'do not remove' tags on mattresses would be a 'dangerous radical'.

    Nope, incorrect. Just people who are borderline fake anarchists like you and zz.

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    errc says

    I don't know many poor people that own RE down the jersey shore

    And of course this storm is polite enough to stop just inside the first and second rows of beachfront properties. Errc, just stop, now, please.

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    kentm says

    That's off to a bad start:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/28/chris-christie-hurricane-sandy_n_2036054.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

    "Chris Christie Praises Obama For Hurricane Sandy Preparation"

    Of course in a few days you'll probably be hearing from the Romney camp how Chris Christie hated obamas sandy prep...

    Michael Savage is already ranting as if Christie pissed in his cheerios:

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    37   4:58am Fri 2 Nov 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    iwog says

    It's an extremely accurate claim. If Romney said "A natural disaster is not a federal government concern and we will not be helping anyone with financial support" he'd lose the election. In fact he'd lose ALL elections from now until forever.
    However this is EXACTLY the sentiment of many teabaggers including. zzyzz and probably you too Shrek although you wont admit it. You'll say something like "I support using federal money for X but using it for Y is outrageous because the government shouldn't be involved" thereby showing extreme hypocrisy and ego-centrism.

    Government is the problem, not the solution. Or that's what some morons keep saying. I wonder if John Stossel of Fxo news will get a 4th FEMA bailout, but remember FEMA help is welfare ONLY if somebody else takes it.

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    Christie pissed in his own cheerios.

    Okay its fine, bloomberg has praised Rom - - oh, wait

    Bloomberg Backs Obama, Citing Fallout From Storm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nyregion/bloomberg-endorses-obama-saying-hurricane-sandy-affected-decision.html?hp&_r=0

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