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Paul Ryan's Speech Proves The New Political Truth It Is Fine to Lie

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It is fine to lie.

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1. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

   30   2:45pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Ah yes..... it always ends in blaming the other side, instead of taking personal responsibilities for the lack of leadership for the last three years!!! It's true. For a president to lead, it helps if the type of humans in the opposition party place the interests of the country above the interests of their party's power. It's that whole leader/follower dynamic.

2. dublin hillz Follow Befriend 10 threads 763 comments Dublin, CA

   31   3:00pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says No one said it would be easy, that job sucks... but it's the job he wanted, so he needs to find away to step up to the plate, be a leader and get everyone on board working to the common good of the american people... Obama hasn't done that... and is unable to do that... he Failed... It's time to bring on a new Head Coach!! We can just as easily argue that there is "cancer in the locker room" - a bunch of Terell Owens characters as represented by the tea party who refuse to listen to "head coach."

3. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

   32   3:00pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   marcus says "Vote for Romney,...so we can turn down the volume on the ugly propaganda machines of News Corp and others,...in other words surrender, and admit defeat, or the right wingers will take this country down, faster than you can say filibuster" To clarify, I'm not going to vote for Romney, for many reasons. I'm just saying that making this sales pitch is the way that he could get as close as possible to getting my vote.

4. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

   33   3:13pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   dublin hillz says We can just as easily argue that there is "cancer in the locker room" - a bunch of Terell Owens characters as represented by the tea party who refuse to listen to "head coach." Like I said, he signed up for it... so it's time to suck it up, put on his big boy pants and do the job he volunteer for, WITHOUT excuses and finger pointing!!

5. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

   34   3:15pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   marcus says To clarify, I'm not going to vote for Romney, for many reasons Wow, you scared us there for a minute..... I thought for a second you might have been crossing over to the "dark side"....

6. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

   35   3:16pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   dublin hillz says a bunch of Terell Owens characters He should be use to the Terell Owens crowd..... they be from his 'hood!!!

7. gbenson Follow Befriend 16 threads 377 comments

   36   4:04pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Ruki, even people with R's next to their name are calling Ryan a fibber (or great embellish-er) on this stuff. Will give you credit for going down swinging, but eventually facts catch up with you.

8. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

   37   4:07pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Like I said, he signed up for it... so it's time to suck it up, put on his big boy pants and do the job he volunteer for, WITHOUT excuses and finger pointing!! So, you want to talk about how bad the economy is, and you want to say President Obama is president now, and therefore he owns it. Okay, and then any serious analysis of how or why our economy is where it is, is not only not productive or useful, it is also "an excuse" and "finger pointing." Better to totally NOT understand why we are where we are, and to only understand two things: 1) The economy is still bad. 2) Obama is President I get it, I think everyone gets the message. After all it is the entirety of the Romney campaign theme.

9. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

   38   4:14pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   An observation. Romney traded at .38 today. When it get's to .33, that means the money says 2:1 odds against Romney winning. http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres12_quotes.html http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres12_WTA.cfm

10. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 169 threads 4,153 comments Premium

    39   4:34pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Who gives a fuck? What's to be done? Snipers and poll suppression scams and Ohio-esque man-in-the-middle attacks will hand Romney the win. He'll fire the OCC, FDIC and SEC, banks will again begin lending money to people's pets to flip condos, blow a huge bubble so people can run 200% HELOCS on their shacks and buy crappy cars and get STDs on cheap cruises and feel rich, which will crash in a term or two so they can cart out a couple of witless, demented retards a la 2008 to help elect another hapless Democrat who'll be left with the steaming shit to shovel up and be blamed for everything. We want a new movie.

11. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 905 comments Ross, CA

    40   4:37pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   marcus says An observation. Romney traded at .38 today. When it get's to .33, that means the money says 2:1 odds against Romney winning. http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres12_quotes.html http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres12_WTA.cfm That's because the really money understands recovery is still years away. Wait until Americans are completely beaten down and then given them Ryan/Rubio.

12. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    41   4:54pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rooemoore says That's because the really money understands recovery is still years away. Wait until Americans are completely beaten down and then given them Ryan/Rubio. I agree. They probably really do strategize this way. McCain was meant to lose and so is Romney. Obama they can deal with by building up teaparty hate against him, making him fairly easy to obstruct.

13. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    42   5:39pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   I see the Liberal Super Pac Social media guru Schil HRHMedia is back ticking likes and dislikes with out actually reading the content, but based who's posting. It wont work, Hodgie Obama is toast.

14. APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich Follow Befriend (28) 169 threads 4,153 comments Premium

    43   5:47pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Fuck you, Cap't! Obama is a Spuckie!

15. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    44   6:18pm Fri 31 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ruki says Now we know where Iwog and bagamal got their orders from: Just more stupid trolling, but WTF does that have to do with the reality that the GOP is now the lying party? Sally Kohn, a contributor to Fox News, said: “Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.”

16. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    45   2:49pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says but it's the job he wanted, so he needs to find away to step up to the plate, be a leader and get everyone on board working to the common good of the american people... Obama hasn't done that... and is unable to do that... he Failed... It's time to bring on a new Head Coach!! Hmmm, it looks like Romney reads Patnet.... he must have read my post and decided to use my statement that it was time for a new Head Coach. Romney likens the election to football: ‘It’s time to get a new coach’ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-likens-election-football-time-coach-161454449--election.html ....."CINCINNATI—Headlining a rally on the opening day of the college football season, Mitt Romney sprinkled his stump speech Saturday with sports analogies, arguing it's time to put a "new coach" on the field to get America back in the game.

17. lostand confused Follow Befriend (9) 160 threads 1,530 comments Premium

    46   2:56pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ryan caught in another lie. He sounded like he ran several marathons and claims he finished one in under three hours. Turns out that was a lie-he only ran one and it was over 4 hours. This guy!!!! http://news.yahoo.com/paul-ryan-trips-over-marathon-183056261--abc-news-politics.html

18. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    47   5:40pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Two links about the lying liars we call todays republicans. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/paul-ryans-dishonest-speech/2012/08/30/16bb62d8-f24f-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_blog.html http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tells-533-lies-in-30-weeks-steve-benen-documents-them/ Yes, yes they all lie, we know. If that's all you have to say about it, read these articles (links) and or consider reading msilenus here

19. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    48   6:29pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says What is refreshing, is he's positive, he believes in America, he believes in family, he believes in business, he believes in hard work and ethics... This is what's called a dog whistle

20. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    49   7:19pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   marcus says Two links about the lying liars we call todays republicans. Ha Ha Ha.... how about a little bit of the "pot calling the Kettle...." Obama Lies While Accusing the Romney Campaign of Lying http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-lies-while-accusing-romney-campaign-lying_651431.html ......"According to the New York Times, the president appears to be lying in the process of accusing the Romney campaign of lying. It will be interesting to see if media fact checkers attempt to spin this statement."

21. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    50   8:33pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Ha Ha Ha.... how about a little bit of the "pot calling the Kettle...." Yes all politicians lie, however I've got three statistical sources that say Republicans lie vastly more often than Democrats. How many do you have?

22. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    51   8:45pm Sat 1 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Call it Crazy says Ha Ha Ha.... how about a little bit of the "pot calling the Kettle...." Yes all politicians lie, however I've got three statistical sources that say Republicans lie vastly more often than Democrats. Let me guess what they are: Mother Jones MSNBC Huff Post

23. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    52   12:51am Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says Let me guess what they are: Mother Jones MSNBC Huff Post Wrong on all three counts but thanks for playing. Politifact, Factcheck, and Snopes. All three are non-partisan. Again, what do you have? Blind guesses or something else?

24. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    53   6:53am Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Again, what do you have? Blind guesses or something else? Nah.... I just pull it out of my ass.... I learned that from you...

25. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    54   6:54am Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Politifact, Factcheck, and Snopes. All three are non-partisan. .."non-partisan"...... Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

26. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    55   10:03am Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says .."non-partisan"...... Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Are you going to answer my question or do you enjoy playing the clown? I have three sources that provide statistical evidence that Republicans lie far more than Democrats. It's not even close. You have nothing to contradict that do you. All you can do is create this fantasy that everything that disturbs your little world has a liberal bias. Again.......why are you so scared to have a conversation? Do you have a source or not?

27. Call it Crazy Follow Befriend 228 threads 2,751 comments

    56   11:30am Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   iwog says Again.......why are you so scared to have a conversation? Do you have a source or not? Come on... you need to catch up here... I've posted boat loads of links and articles to many of my postings, but as usual, if they don't fit YOUR narrative, you ignore them.... Do I need to come over to your house and teach you Reading 101???

28. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    57   6:36pm Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Call it Crazy says I've posted boat loads of links and articles to many of my postings, but as usual, if they don't fit YOUR narrative, you ignore them... I'm ignoring them because they aren't fucking relevant and they aren't a comparative analysis of how much Republicans/Romney lies and Democrats/Obama lies. I can't believe anyone could be this stupid. Answer my question or admit you're too afraid to have this conversation. What source do you have, ANY source, that indicates Democrats lie more then Republicans OR they both lie the same amount? Stay tuned for another total non-sequitur to run away from answering me. (again) Call it Crazy says Do I need to come over to your house and teach you Reading 101??? Congratulations you're a troll. Now answer my question.

29. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    58   6:48pm Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   Head of Democratic governors' group says voters aren't better off -- but that's not the question

30. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,452 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

    59   9:37pm Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Head of Democratic governors' group says voters aren't better off -- but that's not the question No, the only question is which policies are harmful and which policies can help restore a functioning economy. You don't give a crap so why comment? You've made it very clear that policy is totally irrelevant in your eyes.

31. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 748 threads 2,572 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    60   9:43pm Sun 2 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup says Head of Democratic governors' group says voters aren't better off -- but that's not the question You can have a better economy, for awhile, with another housing bubble but it doesn't make it good for America. That and war are all Ryan and Romney have. They are unfit to govern. Malaise is actually better than what the Republicans have in store for us.

32. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    61   8:51am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   We're not better off But that's not the question which policies can help restore the ecconomy... Well I say, he's had four years to figure which buttons does what. Even a clock is right two times a day. Obama hasn't been right in four years.

33. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    62   10:12am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   CaptainShuddup, the dog whistler.

34. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 246 threads 4,658 comments

    63   10:15am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   No I'm the Dog, that is sick and tired being called to dinner to an empty plate.

35. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    64   10:32am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Well I've got news for you dog. The president can only do so much. That is always the case. What's different this time is how bad things are, for reasons that are independent of who is president right now. I'm not saying it doesn't matter. What I'm saying is that if you were able to look at it objectively rather than: Economy was great in late 80s, duh therefore Reagan great (he get's credit even if it was timing, interest rate falling down hard, and deficit spending that caused us to feel prosperous then) We're still feeling the deep structural economic problems (*that we all saw coming), and I want daddy to make them go away. Duhh, Obama is bad. *We all saw this coming. Didn't you ever have conversations with friends in the 90s or early aughts saying, "we don't make many of the products we consume anymore. What drives this economy?" Turns out it was a credit boom. Now we are in a different stage. There's no magic pill to get us out of our current situation. Even if politicians all lie and there isn't that much difference, there is a big difference in philosophies. The right wing (tea party wing) is not conservative. THey want to privatize everything. They are blinded by ignorance and hate. Okay, so you hear their dog whistle. You've got the hate part, but the ignorance too ?

36. bdrasin Follow Befriend 6 threads 489 comments Alameda, CA

    65   10:34am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   lostand confused says Ryan caught in another lie. He sounded like he ran several marathons and claims he finished one in under three hours. Turns out that was a lie-he only ran one and it was over 4 hours. This guy!!!! http://news.yahoo.com/paul-ryan-trips-over-marathon-183056261--abc-news-politics.html 4 hours 1 minute is a pretty good time for a first-time marathon runner. And I really don't much care...its a distraction.

37. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    66   10:37am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ryan's biggest lie. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125901/-The-biggest-of-all-Paul-Ryan-s-big-nbsp-lies

38. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 748 threads 2,572 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    67   10:42am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bdrasin says 4 hours 1 minute is a pretty good time for a first-time marathon runner. And I really don't much care...its a distraction. It is a lie. It is not a distraction. It goes to the core of who Paul Ryan is. I wrote about him in the ebook, Dirty Dirty Republicans. He is a dirty guy, a massive and pathological liar.

39. marcus Follow Befriend (5) 166 threads 5,054 comments

    68   10:45am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   So we had a radical defiant congress who not only refused to work with Obama, they nearly drove the economy off a cliff in an attempt to get their way. They don't represent the people. They sign grover norquist's pledge to not raise taxes (drive us closer to bankruptcy for the purpose of ending "entitlements"), because of the campaign money it brings their way, and maybe because they just don't care about our fiscal condition. THey essentially use brute force to get their way. And people like captiainshaddup want to reward this behavior by giving them more power ? This is why I have to assume it's racism. Because otherwise you couldn't possibly be stupid enough to not understand what's going on.

40. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 748 threads 2,572 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    69   11:06am Mon 3 Sep 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   marcus says Because otherwise you couldn't possibly be stupid enough to not understand what's going on. They are either stupid or they are positioning themselves for a housing bubble. That could help them, but not society as a whole.

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