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Libertarians You Cannot Vote for Mitt Romney

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http://www.businessinsider.com/libertarians-you-cannot-vote-for-mitt-romney-2012-8

My newest article against the Neocons.

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1. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

   15   3:45pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   taketheplunge says rooemoore says That's what makes him cool... I don't think it's cool. So we disagree on that point. What, you want a pansy like Romney for president?

2. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

   16   4:23pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   What makes Romney a pansy?

3. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   17   4:34pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Bigsby says Because it's one person's OPINION entirely premised on the idea that Romney may end up spending more money on the military than the other guy and that will somehow massively increase the threat of nuclear war. If the same guys, the Neocons, are involved in the same sort of attempt to provoke the Russian Bear, the outcome could be even worse the next time than it was the first time. In fact, it is likely that it will be dangerous and worse. You don't provoke the Bear. You stand up to the Bear but you don't provoke the country that can destroy you.

4. taketheplunge Follow Befriend (1) 18 threads 29 comments San Francisco, CA

   18   4:34pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rooemoore says What, you want a pansy like Romney for president? I consider is very wimpy not to have the guts to use proper due process. Skimping on due process like Obama and Bush before him is not to be admired. It's thuggish. If Romney behaved similarly, he would be similarly bad.

5. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   19   4:40pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   taketheplunge says I think Obama puts the World in danger too. He even assassinates American citizens without a trial or even a charge, not to mention citizens of other countries. It is a question of the lesser of two evils. We are out of Iraq and getting out of Afghanistan. The Neocons want to take over the world. It is their stated goal to make the US the only superpower. They are out of their gourds.

6. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

   20   4:43pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Honest Abe says Anti-Obama movie #1. Of course it is. People are fed up with his radical, anti-American policies. End the threat - vote Obama out. Yeah, Abe, as our resident neocon did you know that the Taliban went to Texas in 1997 and then refused to build a pipeline to Halliburton and Bush Sr oil investments in the Caspian Sea? Did you know we had motive to invade Afghanistan BEFORE 911? Google "Taliban Went to Texas in 1997" and read the BBC account.

7. Bigsby Follow Befriend 2,841 comments Monterey, CA

   21   6:53pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Honest Abe says http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/first-box-office-anti-obama-movie-1/ Anti-Obama movie #1. Of course it is. People are fed up with his radical, anti-American policies. End the threat - vote Obama out. Yep, and Expelled... took $7.7m, which just shows that there are a lot of morons in the US willing to lap up any old shit.

8. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 352 threads 965 comments

   22   7:49pm Fri 24 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Let's see who who get's pissed.

9. Honest Abe Follow Befriend (41) 91 threads 1,806 comments

   23   1:53am Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Bigsby, Bigsby, Bigsby - you haven't seen the movie...have you? Irregardless - obamba has totally failed to live up to his promises to the American people and doesn't deserve to be reelected.

10. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    24   5:34am Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Honest Abe says rregardless - obamba has totally failed to live up to his promises to the American people and doesn't deserve to be reelected. You need to be very afraid if the Neocons seek the confrontations with China and Russia over shields. There could be nuclear war. http://www.businessinsider.com/a-cold-war-might-be-heating-up-chinas-new-missiles-americas-new-shield-2012-8

11. CaptainShuddup Follow Befriend (1) 296 threads 5,263 comments

    25   3:34pm Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   rooemoore says That's what makes him cool... The President isn't supposed to be cool. That's the job of idealistic kids, that think the President is an uncool out of touch, Asshole. Which our President is, but the Liberals aren't. He's Cool so his constituents don't have to be.

12. curious2 Follow Befriend (5) 32 threads 2,344 comments Premium

    26   3:46pm Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Romney is the furthest thing from a libertarian. He signed RomneyCare proudly. He devotes 20 hours a week and million$ of his fortune to a cult that would take away your liberty without a second thought, or even a first thought frankly. He wouldn't even understand libertarian ideas, or the classical liberals that the founders of the republic considered themselves, because he operates in a parallel world where those philosophies have no purchase and reason itself is a lower faculty. From the OP's article, "the Neocons are giddy with overconfidence." This has been sadly true for a decade. One of the scariest things I ever read was the national security document issued early in the first W administration, under the aegis of ANSA Condi Rice. The unbelievable arrogance, hubris really, foretold the military misadventures that followed. When they should have been looking for terrorists, they were instead selling neocon dreams of massive procurement programs.

13. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

    27   6:26pm Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Honest Abe says What makes Romney a pansy? Seriously?

14. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

    28   6:51pm Sat 25 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (2)   CaptainShuddup says rooemoore says That's what makes him cool... The President isn't supposed to be cool. That's the job of idealistic kids, that think the President is an uncool out of touch, Asshole. Which our President is, but the Liberals aren't. He's Cool so his constituents don't have to be. He's cool because he's a badass. Having a smart, badass leader of the free world in these crazy times is a good thing. BTW, Looks like we maybe got another: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/25/us-pakistan-afghanistan-haqqani-idUSBRE87O04A20120825 Romney, in a crisis, would probably wet himself the way Bush did on 9/11. taketheplunge says rooemoore says What, you want a pansy like Romney for president? I consider is very wimpy not to have the guts to use proper due process. Skimping on due process like Obama and Bush before him is not to be admired. It's thuggish. If Romney behaved similarly, he would be similarly bad. Yes, you are right of course. We should send a couple thousand 18 and 19 year olds into Yemen to arrest the terrorists and bring them back to the USA for trials. Personally, I think we should scale back our "war on terror". (but then I am not looking at the same intel Obama is). But if we are going to fight these religious zealot nut-jobs, I say drones are the best way to do it.

15. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    29   7:53am Sun 26 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rooemoore says I say drones are the best way to do it. Drones are highly immoral and kill randomly. I realize they have improved the accuracy, but still, they are like robots killing. We should have learned from WW2 and Hitler's use of them that they are just wrong.

16. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

    30   10:07am Sun 26 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says rooemoore says I say drones are the best way to do it. Drones are highly immoral and kill randomly. I realize they have improved the accuracy, but still, they are like robots killing. We should have learned from WW2 and Hitler's use of them that they are just wrong. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com How is a drone different from a gun? It is just the natural evolution of warfare. And if that evolution leads us closer and closer to the day when the only people who pay the consequences of conflict are the asshole leaders who start it, I'm all for it. Since you brought up Hitler and WWII, I'll ask you this: If a drone strike on Berchtesgaden in 1939 could have taken out Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, Hess and other top Third Reich leaders would you have been against it?

17. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

    31   9:10pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   Ruki says he only ones putting the world in danger are the Ayotollah's Men in Washington: Obama has faults, but his foreign policy is not among them. His higher intellect combined with his willingness to be a general badass when necessary puts him far ahead of the pansy Romney. Seriously, give up attacking his foreign policy record. It's very strong and generally won't matter in the election. publicans just look jealous when they go after him on this.

18. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    32   9:21pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ruki says The only ones putting the world in danger are the Ayotollah's Men in Washington: You are guilty of fraud and deceit, since he is not Muslim. You are morally and ethically bankrupt for posting that picture.

19. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    33   9:22pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   rooemoore says How is a drone different from a gun? The decision that ethically should be made on the battlefield is made far in advance, with innocent non war folks dying all the time.

20. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,075 comments

    34   9:36pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says No, I logically proved that the threat of Romney and the Neocons could put the world in danger. I suggest you start building and stocking your bomb shelter.. since your in Reno, you shouldnt have any problem digging into a deep mountain... If you start now im sure a guy like you will have it done before Romney takes office... ....See you in say 35 years!

21. rooemoore Follow Befriend 41 threads 917 comments Larkspur, CA

    35   10:01pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says The decision that ethically should be made on the battlefield is made far in advance, with innocent non war folks dying all the time. This is a gun: Not nearly as intelligent as a drone. Kills lots on "non war" folks. Here's another modern weapon: Once again, by your standards should not be allowed. I guess I'm not making myself clear. Drones are killing fewer innocents than the alternatives. There are arguments to be made against drones, but when you use the words "ethical" and "battlefield" in the same sentence your way off track.

22. Vicente Follow Befriend (8) 209 threads 4,507 comments Davis, CA

    36   10:19pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (4)   Dislike   Libertarians talk a good game about distaste for "standing armies" and intervention abroad. However they secretly love the MIC and will never bridle it. At best they'll say they want to keep the troops at home. But turning the swords into plowshares isn't the plan. Soon they'll forget about the last war and hunger for another. I was a Libertarian for 20 years. You can't progress until you recognize your flaws.

23. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 241 comments

    37   10:29pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says We should have learned from WW2 and Hitler's use of them that they are just wrong. Hitlers "drones" were no more then flying bombs pointed toward England and when they ran out of fuel fell to earth and exploded. Yes, we have refined our killing methodology since those days. USA drones are probably the most selective of airborne weaponry. Given the high resolution cameras and the ability to stay near a target for long periods of time observing it and the ability to abort a mission if say children are nearby. They are of course, as Hitlers V1 and V2 were, weapons of terror. In this case more selective terror but terror none the less. I doubt many Taliban and their like sleep well at night unless they are taking a dirt nap.

24. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,075 comments

    38   11:43pm Mon 27 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   The only people who hate drones or cruise missiles are terrorists...

25. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    39   1:59am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   You'll hate them when they're flying over your rooftop. Oh look, they already are.

26. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    40   2:23am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Obligatory: War is a racket, smedly butler http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm

27. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    41   2:29am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Ruki says > The only ones putting the world in danger are the Ayotollah's Men in Washington: ah yes. Because tourist and costume photography are exactly the thing to be basing campagn ideas on. By the same thought process toulous lautrec was a Lady and Poirot the clown:

28. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,075 comments

    42   2:29am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)   kentm says You'll hate them when they're flying over your rooftop. bla bla bla... ok your a pacifist, we get it.. The same crap was said back in 1980 regarding Reagan, and we are still here!

29. kentm Follow Befriend (1) 117 threads 971 comments

    43   2:38am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike   Hardly a pacifist, just not a goddamn idiot. I was using the same argument technique you were using to support the idea that attacking Iraq was a plausible idea. But of course you missed it. WHAT was said regarding Reagan?... Did Reagan authorize the use of drones over US urban areas? Did Reagan allow the use of the military, a force designed and trained to KILL, on US territory as crowd suppression? And... " you're"

30. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,008 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    44   8:02am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says Bigsby says I read the link. It doesn't establish anything. That is a cop out. How about explaining why you think it doesn't establish anything. bgamall4 says It is my opinion...I have come to the conclusion, based on my views... As I say...I cannot understand...I cannot imagine...The libertarians could certainly agree with me on that...If you add to all this that...you know that...It isn't logical... It certainly isn't logical. It's your opinion, which you've presented as the basis for your argument.

31. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    45   8:18am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   elliemae says It certainly isn't logical. It's your opinion, which you've presented as the basis for your argument. Not sure what you mean. What I have said is that if the assumption is that the greatest libertarian failure is nuclear war, then voting for the neocons is illogical. If libertarians believe regulation trumps nuclear war then that is another story. I don't happen to believe that about them.

32. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    46   8:31am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   the GOP is dominated by emotionally maimed religious lunatics who are incapable of having a personal relationship with reality. have you ever met any of the local republican leaders? think: cross between The Church Lady and a Soccer Mom on Prozac.

33. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    47   8:33am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   kentm says Obligatory: War is a racket, smedly butler http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm Do you know that Smedly Butler actually pointed at Prescott Bush(yes THAT Bush) as leading the fascist takeover he was trying to stop?

34. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    48   8:38am Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   and btw- don't you be talking to loud now against the insiders, they'll just stage another terror attack and then tell us they're going to 'protect' us. it's best to stay quiet. very very quiet, and wait until it all blows over in your bunker with 2 years of freeze dried food.

35. ELC Follow Befriend (3) 3 threads 658 comments Fort Lauderdale, FL

    49   4:38pm Tue 28 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Honest Abe says irregardless LOL

36. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,008 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    50   10:50pm Wed 29 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   ELC says Honest Abe says irregardless LOL Abeabe misunderestimated your understanding of the english language.

37. elliemae Follow Befriend (25) 416 threads 7,008 comments Saint George, UT elliemae's website

    51   10:59pm Wed 29 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says If libertarians believe regulation trumps nuclear war then that is another story. I don't happen to believe that about them. But it's pure opinion. You link to an opinion piece you wrote, quoting it as a basis for what you believe that you've established. The only thing that you've established is that you are able to quote yourself as a source. bgamall4 says My newest article against the Neocons. You didn't write a news article ("news" is implied). You wrote an opinion piece with a conclusion you present as pertinent.

38. thomaswong.1986 Follow Befriend 15 threads 3,075 comments

    52   12:50am Thu 30 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   kentm says WHAT was said regarding Reagan?... Did Reagan authorize the use of drones over US urban areas? Did Reagan allow the use of the military, a force designed and trained to KILL, on US territory as crowd suppression? ah yes.. drones! just distractions and fear by the Dems/Liberal Radicals... like we have not had satellites for decades all this time over the US taking pictures and providing weather air traffic, telecommunications and other services like monitoring drug trafficking. For a bunch of progressive libs who embrace change.. you sure have a fear of technology. So what.. they could be great for border surveillance against human and drug trafficking, it its cheaper and does the job done, Im all for it. Crown suppression... there has been plenty of fear mongering by the radical left back in the 80s that Reagan would turn us into a police state... well we are still here, listening to same nonsense. Really .. you got stop smoking that stuff, your paranoia will drive you to an early grave!

39. WillyWanker Follow Befriend (1) 9 threads 195 comments 50 male Beverly Hills, CA WillyWanker's website

    53   10:34am Thu 30 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   bgamall4 says Ruki says The only ones putting the world in danger are the Ayotollah's Men in Washington: You are guilty of fraud and deceit, since he is not Muslim. You are morally and ethically bankrupt for posting that picture. Gary Anderson strategicdefaultbooks.com Ha, what a moron. Hussein posed for the picture. Why are you ashamed of your failed leader? Does it bother you to see Hussein in muslim drag?

40. bgamall4 Follow Befriend (14) 816 threads 2,808 comments 63 male Las Vegas, NV bgamall4's website Premium

    54   10:39am Thu 30 Aug 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   WillyWanker says Ha, what a moron. Why, for saying that Obama is not a Muslim? You deceive yourself and those gullible enough to wallow in the mud.

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