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Iowa, Minnesota Best Places to Live by 2032?

By mili   Follow   Tue, 24 Jul 2012, 8:33am   1,734 views   26 comments
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Where will you want to live in 20 years? According to a recent Gallup study, the hottest destinations in 2032 might include Iowa…and Minnesota.
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/07/23/Iowa-Minnesota-Best-Places-to-Live-by-2032.aspx

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1. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,109 comments

   1   8:36am Tue 24 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   I always wanted to live where it gets -30 degrees...

2. HEY YOU Follow Befriend (4) 331 threads 919 comments

   2   11:26pm Tue 24 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I've heard it's been warm & dry in Iowa this summer.

3. robertoaribas Follow Befriend (23) 55 threads 3,793 comments Scottsdale, AZ robertoaribas's website

   3   11:32pm Tue 24 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   with global warming, Iowa and Minnesota will be tropical ocean front paradises by then! Buy today or be priced out forever!

4. E-man Follow Befriend (31) 34 threads 2,545 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   4   11:48pm Tue 24 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   robertoaribas says with global warming, Iowa and Minnesota will be tropical ocean front paradises by then! Buy today or be priced out forever! And people said you don't have a sense of humor. LOL!

5. NomoUzero Follow Befriend 4 comments

   5   12:05am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (3)   Dislike   Probably the last states where people will still be speaking English...

6. robertoaribas Follow Befriend (23) 55 threads 3,793 comments Scottsdale, AZ robertoaribas's website

   6   12:10am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (2)   NomoUzero says Probably the last states where people will still be speaking English... fly your racist flag!

7. dunnross Follow Befriend 28 threads 1,489 comments San Jose, CA Premium

   7   12:29am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   NomoUzero says Probably the last states where people will still be speaking English... And the last areas on this earth with fresh water supply.

8. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   8   6:39am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   robertoaribas says fly your racist flag! Do you want to live in Mexico? Neither do I. It has nothing to do with race.

9. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

   9   6:42am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   edvard2 says I always wanted to live where it gets -30 degrees... By 2032 it might not be -30 degrees very often thanks to global warming. Winter cold and overnight low temperatures are the most affected by increased greenhouse gasses. We didn't even have winter here in the northern US last winter.

10. bubblesitter Follow Befriend (5) 10 threads 2,329 comments

    10   7:40am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Only safe haven away from rest of the civilization delved into cannibal anarchy.

11. zzyzzx Follow Befriend (9) 414 threads 4,133 comments Baltimore, MD

    11   9:03am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says We didn't even have winter here in the northern US last winter. So this means even where you live they have cheap housing AND good weather! When I retire (if that ever happens) I might have to move north again.

12. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    12   9:06am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   zzyzzx says So this means even where you live they have cheap housing AND good weather! It's still very cloudy in the winter up here. And I'm not counting on a lack of winter every year. Summer and fall are fabulous. There aren't too many good-paying jobs up here. Many people live off the gummint or work for the gummint. The private sector fled to Texas, Mexico, and China a long time ago.

13. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,109 comments

    13   9:14am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says By 2032 it might not be -30 degrees very often thanks to global warming. Winter cold and overnight low temperatures are the most affected by increased greenhouse gasses. We didn't even have winter here in the northern US last winter. Well, where I live I don't have to guesstimate what the weather might be like in 20-30 years or more. In other words, I don't have to wonder if somewhere that has crappy weather will perhaps have "better" weather in a few decades. Its between 55-75 here year-round. I have no AC and barely use the heat. Oh- and its now. Not decades from now. I lived in the Northeast for 3 years and not only were winters miserable and gloomy, but so too were Summers- as in they were HOT. I have enough of that to last me a lifetime.

14. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    14   9:19am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   edvard2 says I lived in the Northeast for 3 years and not only were winters miserable and gloomy, but so too were Summers- as in they were HOT. I have enough of that to last me a lifetime. No one ever moved to the Northeast for the climate. ;-) It's ok with me. I won't be a mortgage-serf my whole life! I'd rather be a free man in a place with shitty weather than a slave in a place with nice weather.

15. E-man Follow Befriend (31) 34 threads 2,545 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    15   9:30am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   wthrfrk80 says edvard2 says I lived in the Northeast for 3 years and not only were winters miserable and gloomy, but so too were Summers- as in they were HOT. I have enough of that to last me a lifetime. No one ever moved to the Northeast for the climate. ;-) It's ok with me. I won't be a mortgage-serf my whole life! I'd rather be a free man in a place with shitty weather than a slave in a place with nice weather. Not everywhere in the Bay Area is expensive. The Peninsula is expensive in general because that's where all the actions are. San Jose, which is in the South Bay, is not expensive by any standards. I own a couple free & clear properties in a part of San Jose, where I consider them nice with tree lined streets and ample parking to host a big party any day of the week, they might not meet the standards of some people on here, but I can live there myself any given day. I acquired both of them for $137k & $155k. Nothing fancy, a townhouse with some yard and a 2 car attached garage, and a condo with a patio and a one car detached garage. There are plenty of hig tech companies located in San Jose mind you. :)

16. jhall Follow Befriend (3) 23 threads 130 comments Minneapolis, MN

    16   9:41am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I've lived in Minnesota for 30 years, so I have earned the right to complain about the weather! The truth is, I've gotten used to it and the other truth is that if you have enough money to buy a good coat and boots and gloves and long underwear and...well, you get the idea. You can stay warm with the right gear. I walk three miles around the lake all year round. Minneapolis is a wonderful city and the park system is second to none. People take getting outside very seriously here, and not just in the summer. Lots of options for winter walking, cross country skiing, ice skating, and for those who marriages aren't so great, ice fishing, where you sit in a tiny shack with your pole in freezing water. Some of the shacks even have heaters and tv! If you're left-leaning, you can actually elect people you believe in (and we're leaving Michele Bachmann out of this conversation, she's in the suburbs). When Minnesota elected Paul Wellstone twice (and possibly for a third term, but he died in in a plane accident), I decided that Minnesota was and is okay by me. I struggled to understand the Jesse Ventura thing, but hey, California voted for Arnold for Gov for two terms. At least we learned our lesson after one... We have a lot more new residents than when I moved here. Tibetans, Hmong, Somali, Ethiopians, Pakistanis -- lots of groups getting started here and that's good for all of us, as a lot of them have started new businesses. As for Iowa, it's another fine state. Good politics, passed gay marriage, lots of corn. Okay, that's my sales pitch for the upper Midwest. Come and visit (not in the winter) and check it out. It's a great place to live. One caveat, I'm from California and my family all lives there and I'm hoping to return sometime, but if I can't and have to stay here for the rest of my life, I'd be okay with that, too.

17. dunnross Follow Befriend 28 threads 1,489 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    17   10:37am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected   E-man says San Jose, which is in the South Bay, is not expensive by any standards. You've gotta be kidding me. I happen to live in San Jose, and the house I am now renting, which is valued at $850K on zillow, must be worth about $150K anywhere else in the country.

18. dunnross Follow Befriend 28 threads 1,489 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    18   10:39am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   E-man says There are plenty of hig tech companies located in San Jose mind you. :) But, outside of that, a total cultural wasteland. In fact, if you are not an engineer or a doctor, forget about living here, because you will probably be below poverty level.

19. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,109 comments

    19   11:02am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says I'd rather be a free man in a place with shitty weather than a slave in a place with nice weather. Well, I'm not sure why it has to be that way. I saved and bought a house we can easily afford so we're not really tied to the mortgage as suggested. Sure- it took work, but so too would anywhere else. Had I moved somewhere cheaper I would have had to go into a different career because the type of work I do barely exists- even in supposedly tech hotspots like Austin. Weather-wise, well everyone has a type of weather they're ok with. All I know is that for me personally I can remember when October rolled around in the Northeast and It was like- oh boy, here we go again with another 6-7 months of freezing weather. That sort of weather makes me depressed. Others love it. So its a personal decision everyone deals with.

20. dunnross Follow Befriend 28 threads 1,489 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    20   11:42am Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   edvard2 says here we go again with another 6-7 months of freezing weather Still better than 30 years of mortgage servitude. And at the end of the 30 years, you don't remember that you've even lived it, because the weather was always the same.

21. edvard2 Follow Befriend 34 threads 2,109 comments

    21   12:38pm Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   dunnross says Still better than 30 years of mortgage servitude. And at the end of the 30 years, you don't remember that you've even lived it, because the weather was always the same. Or- had I decided to keep on renting ( which by the way I did for 17 years) I could easily change your statement to: "Still better than 30 years of renting servitude. And at the end of the 30 years, you don't remember that you've even lived it, because the weather was always the same." What is that supposed to mean anyway? The weather is the same? I certainly don't hear tons of people whining in Hawaii. Darn it- I hate it that its 75 degrees all the time... But I digress. Like I mentioned, I've rented and now I have bought. Both require an expenditure of money on a monthly basis. I enjoyed renting. I now enjoy owning. Just because I now own doesn't mean I am doomed to "servitude" or whatever. Like I said- we saved. For over 10+ years in fact. We didn't stretch for this house, and its in a place we like. So say what you want. We're pleased with our decision. I don't believe renting or owning are better or worse. They're both personal, financial decisions.

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    22   12:49pm Wed 25 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   edvard2 says "Still better than 30 years of renting servitude. And at the end of the 30 years, you don't remember that you've even lived it, because the weather was always the same." Actually, if you look at it that way, a perhaps more accurate statement would be: "Still better than to-the-end-of-your-life renting servitude. And at the end of your life, you don't remember that you've even lived it, because the weather was always the same."

23. New Renter Follow Befriend (3) 13 threads 2,216 comments San Jose, CA Premium

    23   8:03pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected   dunnross says E-man says San Jose, which is in the South Bay, is not expensive by any standards. You've gotta be kidding me. I happen to live in San Jose, and the house I am now renting, which is valued at $850K on zillow, must be worth about $150K anywhere else in the country. Only $850k? Damn, I think I have that in my couch somewhere...

24. jvolstad Follow Befriend (4) 992 threads 1,125 comments San Antonio, TX jvolstad's website

    24   8:56pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-5174345.html Lots of Somali Gangs taking over the Twin City area. I saw that last time I was up in that area. Upper midwest liberals crying over these people.

25. The Original Bankster Follow Befriend 4 threads 342 comments Phoenix, AZ The Original Bankster's website

    25   10:32pm Fri 27 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   NomoUzero says Probably the last states where people will still be speaking English... better go get some free chit meng!

26. jhall Follow Befriend (3) 23 threads 130 comments Minneapolis, MN

    26   10:57am Sat 28 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   jvolstad says Lots of Somali Gangs taking over the Twin City area. I saw that last time I was up in that area. Upper midwest liberals crying over these people. Somebody give me a hanky. Those poor gangs from Africa must get so cold...