Right-wing Claims that are Actually True


By freak80   Follow   Wed, 11 Jul 2012, 2:09pm   862 views   8 comments
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I've been kind of harsh toward some of the "far right" trolls here on Patnet. To be fair, I've decided to list some of the right-wing claims categorized as "true" by Politifact.com.

-- Rick Santorum: "Over 40% of children in America are born out of wedlock"

-- Michelle Bachmann: "Our government right now...(is) spending 40% more than what we take in"

-- John Cornyn: "51%, that is, a majority of American households, paid no income tax in 2009. Zero. Zip. Nada."

-- George Will: "we lost more jobs in this great recession than the last four recessions combined."

-- Scott Walker: "most federal employees do not have collective bargaining for benefits, nor for pay."

-- George Will: if Wisconsin's governor cuts [pay and benefits] as much as he plans to do, "it would still leave (public sector workers) better off than their private sector counterparts."

-- Rand Paul: the federal government "can cut all of the non-military discretionary spending and still not balance the budget."

-- Barack Obama: the US has "one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world." (no, I don't know why Obama used this standard right-wing talking point)

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  1. evilmonkeyboy


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    1   2:34pm Wed 11 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)  

    wthrfrk80 says

    - Rick Santorum: "Over 40% of children in America are born out of wedlock"

    I like this one :) coming from the anti-contraceptive poster-boy.

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    2   3:36pm Wed 11 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    Of the 40% of children born out of wed lock, how many have Right-wing parents?

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    3   3:40pm Wed 11 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (2)   Dislike  

    Born out of wedlock because mom is SMART!

    Being married messes up all your welfare bennefits, S-8, food stamps, free medical.

    My married friends with stay at home moms are broke as a joke with maxed out credit cards - they should never ever have gotten married but put the pregnant partner on taxpayer dime and live like kings.

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    wthrfrk80 says

    -- John Cornyn: "51%, that is, a majority of American households, paid no income tax in 2009. Zero. Zip. Nada."

    This is narrowly true, but most people think "the taxes I pay to the IRS each year on my 1040" when they hear "income tax", and by that standard its not true because those include medicare and social security tax.

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    5   6:52am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    HEY YOU says

    Of the 40% of children born out of wed lock, how many have Right-wing parents?

    Heck if I know.

    evilmonkeyboy says

    I like this one :) coming from the anti-contraceptive poster-boy.

    Was he "anti-contraceptive" or just "anti Catholics-being forced-to-pay-for-it"?

    Still, that's a stunning statistic. 40%? I didn't know it was THAT high. I guess "sex-education" means "teaching people how to have sex" ;-)

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    bdrasin says

    This is narrowly true, but most people think "the taxes I pay to the IRS each year on my 1040" when they hear "income tax", and by that standard its not true because those include medicare and social security tax.

    It looks like you are correct yes. Politifact has a link to more details for each "claim." Here's the link for Cornyn's claim:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/08/john-cornyn/john-cornyn-says-51-percent-american-households-pa/

    And an excerpt that backs up your assertion about income vs. payroll taxes:

    "Estimates by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center project that for tax year 2011, 46.4 percent of households won’t have any income tax liability. However, of this number, 28.3 percent will pay payroll taxes, the center projects. Of the remaining 18.1 percent with neither income nor payroll tax liability, 10.3 percent are elderly and 6.9 percent are not elderly but have incomes lower than $20,000. In other words, all but a tiny sliver of Americans without either income tax or payroll tax liability are either elderly or poor."

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    7   7:23am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    wthrfrk80 says

    bdrasin says

    This is narrowly true, but most people think "the taxes I pay to the IRS each year on my 1040" when they hear "income tax", and by that standard its not true because those include medicare and social security tax.

    It looks like you are correct yes. Politifact has a link to more details for each "claim." Here's the link for Cornyn's claim:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/08/john-cornyn/john-cornyn-says-51-percent-american-households-pa/

    This whole thing seems to me to be verbal sleight-of-hand. Payroll tax is an income tax in the general sense of being "a tax levied on and based on income", even if its not FICA. So its a true statement that doesn't mean what most people will assume it means.

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    8   7:33am Thu 12 Jul 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike (1)  

    bdrasin says

    So its a true statement that doesn't mean what most people will assume it means.

    Maybe it should have gone under Politifact's "mostly true" category rather than "true" category.

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