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Democrats polled to win congress by Wall Street Journal

By iwog   Follow   Fri, 3 Feb 2012, 11:38am   2,183 views   33 comments
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And the trend is also in their favor. Look for even bigger margins as the economy improves.

No one should be betting that Republicans hold the House in November. Even a poll from Newscorp's Wall Street Journal can't spin this for the Pubes.

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1. thunderlips11 Follow Befriend (13) 49 threads 2,625 comments Premium

   1   11:44am Fri 3 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   The whole primary season is really helping the Dems.

2. ¥ Follow Befriend 35 threads 5,700 comments Bellingham, WA

   2   12:58pm Fri 3 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   It would be odd if the House & Senate both flipped. Dems have a real tough row to hoe in the Senate: Of the 33 seats up, 23 are Dems. 7 of these will be open seats. Only 2 of 10 Rs are retiring. Also, 10 of the 16 running Dems are first-termers.

3. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

   3   3:31pm Fri 3 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says I've had a few ideas on reform myself. Dan, those all sound too reasonable ever be put into practice. Are there any examples of countries who have similar systems? Also, the only one I am hesitant on is #6. Rather than punish people for making possibly "innocent" mistakes. Bills should be vetted as constitutional before a vote is cast.

4. Kevin Follow Befriend 40 threads 2,652 comments

   4   9:32pm Fri 3 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says Even though I want Obama to lose the presidency election, Why one earth would anyone hope for Romney to be president? Or...gingrich? Jesus. I think that'd be the end right there.

5. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   5   9:59pm Fri 3 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   leoj707 says Are there any examples of countries who have similar systems? Some European countries use proportional representation. The other items are kind of U.S. specific. leoj707 says Also, the only one I am hesitant on is #6. #6 is a bit strict, but it could be revised. The important thing is that there should be a deterrent to attempting to undermine rights. Otherwise, there is no reason for politicians to not try taking our rights away. Unfortunately, voting alone isn't much of a deterrent when all the politicians are the same. Kevin says Why one earth would anyone hope for Romney to be president? Because who is president for the next four years is not as important as making sure the Democrat party doesn't turn into the Republican party. If Obama isn't kicked out of office, then all Democrats will think they can violate our rights with impunity because we'll still vote for them out of fear of Reptilian, er, Republican rule. If Obama is kicked out of office, the next Democrat learns that he can't act like a Republican and stay elected. And in the long run, that's more important.

6. Kevin Follow Befriend 40 threads 2,652 comments

   6   11:47am Sat 4 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I think if Romney wins the election, the democrats will just decide that they have to act more like Romney.

7. iwog Follow Befriend (48) 272 threads 12,462 comments 47 male Lafayette, CA Premium

   7   5:18pm Sat 4 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   GameOver says -Image of U.S. economy, 'improving'. Because all the economic numbers, the stock market numbers, the GDP, and the CPI are fake right?

8. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

   8   7:34pm Sun 5 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Kevin says I think if Romney wins the election, the democrats will just decide that they have to act more like Romney. The one thing that politicians are smart at, is realizing why they lose elections. It's what keeps the money flowing into their bank accounts. If Obama isn't elected because his pro-torture, anti-civil rights, anti-human rights policies pissed off his supporters, you can be damn sure he and all other Democrats will learn the lesson. You can't teach a person something if it's acceptance would decrease their income. But it's damn easy to teach someone something that will protect their income.

9. ¥ Follow Befriend 35 threads 5,700 comments Bellingham, WA

   9   9:40pm Sun 5 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Republicans will NOT raise taxes this decade. They learned from Pappy's brutal treatment in 1992. They might pass their hare-brained flat tax, but that will just shift the taxation burden further down the income stack, making the competition to reduce one's tax rate more American by having the higher earners pay less tax -- what could be more American than rewarding winners and penalizing losers? There's a certain moral logic in that that the rubes might even buy into.

10. ¥ Follow Befriend 35 threads 5,700 comments Bellingham, WA

    10   9:43pm Sun 5 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says anti-civil rights, anti-human rights policies pissed off his supporters, you can be damn sure he and all other Democrats will learn the lesson. aha ahah ahah hah. Man, you really must still smell of turnips.

11. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    11   9:49pm Sun 5 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Bellingham Bill says aha ahah ahah hah. Man, you really must still smell of turnips. I have no idea what that means, but I can tell it's not much of a counter-argument.

12. rdm Follow Befriend 4 threads 239 comments

    12   11:17pm Sun 5 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says If Obama isn't elected because his pro-torture, anti-civil rights, anti-human rights policies pissed off his supporters, you can be damn sure he and all other Democrats will learn the lesson. Last time the left voted against a Democrat in large numbers it was for Ralph Nader who got 80 thousand votes in Florida in 2000. That really worked out well for everyone. I hope they learned their lesson though it isnt the one you wish for.

13. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    13   12:36pm Mon 6 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike (1)   CL says but you give them far too much credit. That's easy to do.

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    14   2:00pm Mon 6 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Sure, we could "reform," but the new system would turn out to be just as corrupt. As long as there are people with enough money to buy politicians, bribery will occur. That's been going on for as long as civilization has existed. I got a fix for that. Get rid of the politicians. There are multiple ways to do that. My personal favorite is to automate government. It's not like those fucking geniuses do anything that a well-written servlet couldn't do.

15. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    15   8:18am Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Dan8267 says I got a fix for that. Get rid of the politicians. There are multiple ways to do that. My personal favorite is to automate government. It's not like those fucking geniuses do anything that a well-written servlet couldn't do. Hey, I'm all for getting rid of politicians. Only issue with an automated government: who gets to program the computer? The top 1%? I think we all know who will end up designing the code. If(peasants=revolt)then do: unleash death robots endif

16. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    16   9:03am Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Only issue with an automated government: who gets to program the computer? The top 1%? I think we all know who will end up designing the code. The High Programmers of course. Reminds me of Paranoia: http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/us/rpgs/paranoia.html

17. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    17   10:54am Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Only issue with an automated government: who gets to program the computer? It would have to be open-source, subject to world-wide peer review, and managed by scientists and engineers with no political ambitions. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is a good place to start gathering project leaders.

18. freak80 Follow Befriend (4) 52 threads 4,416 comments Corning, NY Premium

    18   1:16pm Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Would there be automated robot police?

19. Dan8267 Follow Befriend (16) 761 threads 7,674 comments Boca Raton, FL Premium

    19   1:32pm Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   wthrfrk80 says Would there be automated robot police? Automating government and automating the police force are orthogonal issues. You can do either one without the other or both. I'm more concerned with automating government.

20. leo707 Follow Befriend (12) 10 threads 3,516 comments Oakland, CA leo707's website Premium

    20   1:37pm Tue 7 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   I would actually like to see an automated government, but I think I would rather have the: "...open-source, subject to world-wide peer review, and managed by scientists and engineers with no political ambitions." Develop an autonomous AI government that once "released" is no longer in human hands.