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Wanted: 3BR SFH in Pacific Grove, CA 93950 for $400,000


By anonymous     Tue, 27 Sep 2011, 10:59am   4,230 views   20 comments
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Monterey, Pacific Grove or Carmel Valley, 2 baths, a nice yard, garage. We would like to have it in good shape, not in need of major repairs and some curb appeal.

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  1. tdr


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    1   9:46am Thu 15 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    This one looks interesting. Only been on the market 7 days though. Wait and it will come down.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Monterey/1079-W-Franklin-St-93940/home/14961707

  2. clambo


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    2   5:27pm Thu 15 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    It's tiny.

  3. tdr


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    3   10:00pm Fri 16 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    That's about what you can get in that price range for this area.

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    4   2:08pm Sat 17 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    As long as you don't mind the traffic grinding up that long hill to the Presidio's Franklin Gate just outside your front door.

  5. Bigsby


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    5   2:59am Wed 28 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    At 400k, you'd probably be better looking along Salinas Highway, especially if space is important.
    Prices have dropped a fair bit in the area, but you still don't get much for your money.

  6. tdr


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    6   12:51pm Sat 31 Dec 2011   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Looks like someone has already made an offer on it.

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    7   9:23pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Closed on 2/16/12 for $404,500

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    8   9:30pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    Carmel is so ugly and boring.

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    9   9:53pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    JodyChunder says

    Carmel is so ugly and boring.

    The water is drinkable though :-)

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    10   9:56pm Tue 28 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (1)   Dislike   Protected  

    Fair enough.

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    11   4:58am Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Boring? Yes. Ugly? What on earth are you comparing it to?

  12. joshuatrio


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    12   7:46am Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Funny, I wouldn't have considered that area in Pacific Grove - more like Monterey...

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    13   9:27am Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    It is in Monterey - 93940.

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    14   9:33am Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike   Protected  

    tdr says

    This one looks interesting. Only been on the market 7 days though. Wait and it will come down.

    http://www.redfin.com/CA/Monterey/1079-W-Franklin-St-93940/home/14961707

    Sold in 1996 for 243K. Now asking 404K? On average housing tracks inflation. So, people have been extremely lucky these last 15 years that we have beaten inflation, by a lot considering this house appreciation. However, if you are numbers person, it is completely conceivable that this house could on day revert back to the 243K range for price. If you plug that number into the prices from 1809 to today it would be perfectly reasonable. Will it, probably not, but just saying it could.

    Rather than thinking 404K like that was nothing think of how many years of your savings it would take to reach that value. How many hours of working, how many good stock trades, how many nights home instead of eating out, how many skipped trips to see the family, etc. Then take a good look at the construction of the house, the lot, the neighborhood and ask yourself if it is worth your sacrifices. If the realtor starts pressuring you, then ask them if they would like to take an equity ownership with you. If it is such a slam dunk deal then they should be more than happy to get a piece. ;)

  15. Bigsby


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    15   9:40am Wed 29 Feb 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Weren't the mid-90s a low point in that decade's housing prices? Anyway, 400k for that is pretty good for Monterey, though I don't know what it's like inside. If it tracked inflation it would be about 350k from a low point in the 90s. Doesn't seem that bad a deal.

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    Bigsby says

    Weren't the mid-90s a low point in that decade's housing prices?

    Not a low point, just a normal steady market without all the slurries of subsidies and incentives. The mid-nineties were a BOOM time for the middle class, even if it was only wealth effect for many.

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    17   12:55am Thu 1 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    Well they certainly took a big dip from the boom in the 80s. I think that's important when people look back and compare house prices from then to now. I presume a lot of people just assume houses were cheaper in the 80s than in the mid-90s say, when they often weren't.

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    Bigsby says

    Well they certainly took a big dip from the boom in the 80s. I think that's important when people look back and compare house prices from then to now. I presume a lot of people just assume houses were cheaper in the 80s than in the mid-90s say, when they often weren't.

    Depends, though; as I recall, the boom was toward the latter part of the eighties and by the time the mid-nineties rolled around, things had normalized on that front. Meanwhile, the general economy was on a tear, so for all intents, we should have had another leg-up in 1996, but we really didn't until after 2001.

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    19   1:37am Thu 1 Mar 2012   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like   Dislike  

    I thought all booms over corrected.

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    Bigsby says

    I thought all booms over corrected.

    Yes, bubbles always do, all throughout history, but as I know you know, a speculative bubble is different from a boom. The credit bubble we had that fed into this latest housing mania is really what took housing into the stratosphere, unlike the boom in the eighties.

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