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  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 11:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Consumer is always the last one to realize this is a recession. A lagging indicator.
Articles like this, trying to rationalize that all is good, are a typical sign of imminent recessions.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 11:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We learned today manufacturing is already in recession. Why is that? if consumption is so great.

  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 11:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Recession is at least five years off.

Just after Trump 2nd term, right?
Ah! No wishful thinking there, for sure.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 12:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

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  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 3:43pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

With a degree in women studies, maybe he understands women...

Just trying to be charitable.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 3:52pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

You finish reading that book, then your T collapses to women's level.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 3:57pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Any kind of standard would be too high a bar and fundamentally unjust.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 4:02pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

But, this being said, the younger generations are absolutely correct: socialism is the future of the world.
Too many useless people can't be dealt with unless massive redistribution takes place.
And this will become worse as productivity increases.
Bread and circus until barbarians show up.
Every moral instinct that says the contrary will have to be renegotiated.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 4:05pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

If you're not attracted, you're a racist & sexist pig.
Goes without saying.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 4:23pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The thing is: traditional models are in fact too thin/anorexic, and it would be very possible to find sexy chubby/curvy women.
But that would set the bar too high. Any standard is too high. Otherwise you generate stress, feelings of inferiority, guilt, etc...

So we have an ultra materialist society of people obsessed with their bodies and with how others will see them.
We have a society of sedentary people overfed with junk food.
But this is not the problem.
No the problem is that men are attracted to these women and not those. It's all men's fault. Has to be.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 4:29pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

mell says
They are and will keep realizing that there's no money in socialism and everyone will be worse off.


You don't understand. This is not a choice. Capitalism is circling the drain. It can't work if more and more people are useless.
Negative yields.
We have poor people, but we could literally produce everything they need and more. But we won't because they are useless and will be more and more useless as time goes by. Until socialism takes over.

There is no solution within the bounds of capitalism. If not the Chinese, the robots will take over. And no one can claim they worked hard to produce what robots did. Then you give it to people for free. And that's that.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 5:13pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

mell says
The useful people will eventually abandon the useless, there is a choice.


You're talking like useless people are a fringe. They will be the majority and be in the street asking for food.

You reason like if given a low enough wage and sufficient effort people could still be useful. This is still true now, but less and less true everyday.
Capitalism is failing to provide the basics for the population at large because a fraction of the population, given the right tools, CAN do everything that needs to be done. The rest is free to starve.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 3, 6:33pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
#1 Manufacturing has been removed from the consuming areas.


Wherever it is done, a fraction of the population can do it for the entire population.

HonkpilledMaster says
#2 Robots/AI are not coming anytime soon.

Whatever the case, more and more stuff is automated.

HonkpilledMaster says
Androids picking lettuce in California is both impossible

Agriculture is already done to a tiny percent of the population, and it's about to get worse as robots will soon run entire farms from A to Z. If not lettuce then wheat.
The farmer will be down to helping in rare situations when something breaks down.

Agriculture and manufacturing are disappearing as jobs. Down to a few percents of the population.
So the rest of the population is made to compete for dummy positions in the service industries. Soon retails clerks and truck drivers will disappear. 2 other staples of the economy employing millions of the less educated. More and more people are useless. Fact.

HonkpilledMaster says
We ARE on the verge of a space revolution giving humanity virtually unlimited resources


Right now we can't even go to the moon. We can't have a small group living there.
In the best case it will take decades. Things progress slowly. This is not easy.

HonkpilledMaster says
#5. The future is going to be utterly decentralized.


This is what it would take: a giant step back from the current world which is optimized for efficiency, and deliberately duplicating efforts and focusing on non-efficient but higher quality solutions.

Exactly what cannot happen under capitalism, at least without massive state interference.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 4, 6:09pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
Predictions of technology eliminated employment go back to the 18th Century and the quasi-apocryphal Luddites who may or may not have actually been extant. I recall concerns about mass employment going back to the Greco-Roman era.

If we don't have an employment and income problem why do we need to go in debt every year, just to keep the economy growing slightly. The gov is about $1 trillion in the red, but the economy barely churns.
It can't be the Chinese or the Mexicans, otherwise why isn't their consumption generating enough income and thus enough consumption so things align?

Why are interest rates negative in so many places?
Why are wages barely growing when we have 3% unemployment?

The money simply isn't distributed, isn't circulating, isn't spent, isn't generating enough end demand. Why is that?
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 4, 6:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
How will socialism make them less useless?

It won't.

Quigley says
Useless people tend to rebel against society

No they won't.

I'm not talking of Lenin's kind of socialism - where people have to work.
I'm talking of the 'social net' kind: pay people to do nothing. Give them food. We already are. It will just get worse.
Useless people do rebel unless they're fed and entertained doing nothing.
When they are, that's socialism.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 4, 11:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
China keeps it's currency artifically cheap, retarding the buying power of Chinese consumers
HonkpilledMaster says
Illegal Immigration and too many H1Bs.


Right. But again they do it. They don't get the income to consume. And still, Americans don't need to do it. There is less work and less income from that work.

HonkpilledMaster says
If we have such an employment crisis, why is allowing millions of under-the-table workers (who aren't counted in stats)


What I'm saying is there is not enough jobs for both Americans, under-the-table workers, and Chinese. You may say this worker should get the job rather than that one, but this is not the heart of the issue. The heart of the issue is there isn't enough for everyone. Those who do have the jobs are productive enough for everyone.

Granted we have 3% unemployment, but after so many people fell off the labor force. And a majority of those who work are locked in a race to the bottom.

The result is not enough income, and the need for debt. And some transfers to the poor as a way to compensate.
More of that is necessarily coming, as we are still moving in the same direction.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 4, 11:19pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
That's "Multiple Human locations beyond the Earth, massively increasing the likelihood of species survival", then space travel is the best bet for the money.


Or we could pay artists, or mothers of newborns, or artisans producing high quality products but can't make a living out of it, or farmers producing organic vegetables, or invest massively in solar/wind, or rebuilt new infrastructures, or basic healthcare coverage for all, etc...
Being more inefficient is easy and sometime good on a human level.
But the incentives won't be provided by the markets.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 5, 12:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Reality says
Not all debt is for consumption. In fact, most debts are supposed to be for investment . . .

Investments mean... buying stuff right? As in: money spent on people doing work, who then turn around and spend that money on other things.
Apparently there is not enough of that going on that the gov feels the need to do it itself. Massive quantities of it.
Why? Isn't the money going in a circle? If not where is the money getting stuck, not being spent?

Reality says
I'm sorry, I don't find robbing other people to be an art

You just need to read your credit card fine prints, or medical payments fine prints, or any such lawyer talk applied to doing business with people not as smart as they think they are. That ought to convince a reasonable man that robbing people is indeed an art.

I get that most Americans will prefer to continue in the current downward spiral and feel indignant that we dare to pay people for doing nothing, or spend money on otherwise uneconomical endeavor. Capitalism is doing a great job of destroying itself.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 6, 10:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

President of the Imperial Galactic Government

"The President is very much a figurehead - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.

An orange sash is what the President of the Galaxy traditionally wears.

On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox Donald Trump is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy US has ever had."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 6, 10:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"Adventurer, ex-hippy, good timer, (crook? quite possibly), manic self-publicist, terribly bad at personal relationships, often thought to be completely out to lunch. Once described by Eccentrica Gallumbits as, "The Best Bang since the Big One," and recently voted the Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Universe for the seventh time running."

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - about the president.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 6, 3:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Whatever you do, some people will be mad.
I say Siri should just go for imaginative insults to men and women equally.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 8, 11:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
it seems like instead of learning the obvious lesson, that males and females are different, she still clings to "Different Socialization" as the reason.


She seems a few fries short of a happy meal.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 9, 9:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Even if costs of materials had gone from zero to 30K, it still would be a 20 - 30K increase, and not good.


Housing prices, new and old, are totally detached from and independent of building costs.
There is a market, very tight, very expensive that dictates prices. Not building costs.

Builders buy land and build houses and do that as long as they can make an adequate profit.
People who sell land know how much it costs to build and know what is the final market price for new housing. They set the prices for land accordingly, taking the difference.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 11, 3:34pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

The French are the best.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 12, 5:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says

58% white
37.6% black
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp


This statistic probably counts hispanics as whites.
This is also just federal prisons.

  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 12, 5:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

93.2 percent of inmates are male. There must be some heavy structural sexism explaining different outcomes.

Deliberately tolerated rape of inmates, is absolutely not cruel and unusual punishment. It's totally normal that a majority of rape survivors in the US are male.
Just being imprisoned would be too easy.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 13, 11:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Anyone who truly believes women should be strong and independent should send him cash.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 13, 4:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's Friday. Time for some random right wing ad hominem... or wominem.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 15, 10:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

She seems to have the support of the NYT:
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 16, 1:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CornPoptheOriginalGangster says
1. That humans are NOT a blank slate, possess a multitude of universal behaviors, that is innate and not socially constructed.
2. That 200 years of the Enlightenment Liberal Nationalism has created the best situation for individual humans in all history, and we should step back and appreciate.


The first point is great.
The second is very difficult for me to accept. You could have said at the top Roman hegemony in the Mediterranean "Pax Romana created the best situation for individual humans in all history.".... Just before 1000 years of dark age, plagues, barbarian invasions, obscurantism, and other human misery. There are trends that are unsustainable and you can't pretend they are.

In any case, the first point goes against SJWs narratives (in academia), the second against environmentalists narratives and economic left socialism.
If you're not with them, you're against them...

If you say anything of substance in this world, someone will hate you for it. So?
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 16, 3:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
The Roman's wished they had dental

Of course I meant: "Pax Romana created the best situation for individual humans in all history until then."
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 16, 3:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CornPoptheOriginalGangster says
I believe you're either growing or dying, so the solution is to greatly expand the number of Enlightenment Value powered Liberal Nation states, first with unincoporated US territories on the Moon, Mars, and beyond.


It's not that simple. You can't ensure the continuity of memes through history. The long arc of moral progress leads you self-righteousness and eventually to SJWism, and neo Marxism.

At a late point, you'll find yourself trying to defend Enlightenment Values to strangers on the Internet. And then BOOM... You're done.

There is only so much organic growth to be had out there.
  Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Sep 16, 3:48pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SunnyvaleCA says
I can accept that a period in time is "the best" even if subsequently there is a fall from that level. The people who died from old age before the Roman Empire collapse certainly lived the best human lifestyle during their time alive compared to any lifestyle previously lived.


That's true, provided the self confidence, bravado and arrogance instilled by self congratulatory books such as "Enlightenment now" is not what causes the ensuing fall.
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