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  1. corntrollio


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    1   3:50pm Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (9)   Dislike (1)   Delete  

    turtledove says

    I'm rapidly tiring of this site. It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes. Anonymity isn't license to spread hate and ignorance. They remind me of people who fly cruelty under the flag of "just being honest." Real people are at the end of these avatars. It's truly appalling that there are so many posters who are ripe to blame anything that's ever gone wrong on women, minorities, and homosexuals.

    Yes, I've been spending less and less time here as time goes on. I mostly avoid the Miscellaneous forum and all of its cranks, but I still try to read the Real Estate and Economics forums occasionally (although the latter doesn't really seem to have very many intelligent posts lately).

    The issue isn't that these people are right wing. It's that they're STUPID right wing people. Most of these folks that we're talking about aren't particularly intelligent and don't really make coherent arguments based on facts -- pretty much a waste of time. If the signal to noise ratio continues to worsen, it won't bode well for the health of the site. There are plenty of intelligent people on that side of the spectrum and many that espouse well-support views, but very few of them post here.

    It's entirely possible that these unintelligent people see everything as left wing here because the typical left wing argument on Patnet is better supported. Usually when people submit opinions into a forum where they are viciously attacked by people who disagree with them, they raise their game. As such, the typical left wing argument here tends to be of higher caliber because it is assumed that such an argument will be viciously attacked by morons.

    I don't really give a fuck about all the "this is liberal" "this is conservative" "liberals do this" "conservatives do that" crap, and would rather just see good arguments, no matter where they come from.

  2. turtledove


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    I'm rapidly tiring of this site. It has become a ranting ground for racists, sexists, and homophobes. Anonymity isn't license to spread hate and ignorance. They remind me of people who fly cruelty under the flag of "just being honest." Real people are at the end of these avatars. It's truly appalling that there are so many posters who are ripe to blame anything that's ever gone wrong on women, minorities, and homosexuals.

    I've often wondered how the Nazis got so many to go along with their holocaust against the Jews. It's hard to foment hatred where none exists. This site shows that there's quite a bit of hatred simmering below the surface waiting to be fanned. Are you just awaiting your charismatic leader?

    Unfortunately, it doesn't seem limited to political affiliation. Two rabid sexists from this site, who shall remain nameless, couldn't be more opposite on the political spectrum. If likes are any indication, I got more support from our right leaning individuals in defense of women. I don't think hate cares which box you tick off on your voter registration.

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    3   10:31am Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (7)   Dislike (3)   Delete  

    CaptainShuddup says

    Imagine a grown White man bitching having his right to freedom of speech.

    Are you gonna pout now, while you delete comment after comment on your threads after you run your face into someone's foot?

    The loudest right-wingers are the biggest punks: they can dish it out but they can't take it. No one posts as much bait as you and no one limits others' speech as much as you.

    Keep crying about what you've created.

  4. CaptainShuddup


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    4   9:45am Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (7)   Dislike (2)   Delete  

    You're right Edvard, got an email so I can submit my offerings and run my next post by you for approval?

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    5   8:53am Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (7)   Dislike (3)   Delete  

    I could just as easily ask:
    What is up with the rash of super left wing posts lately?

  6. Call it Crazy


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    6   3:16pm Sun 27 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (7)   Dislike   Delete  

    Homeboy says

    And I'm out of here...

    Woo Hoo!!! It's Party Time!!!
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    7   3:53pm Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike   Delete  

    turtledove says

    I've often wondered how the Nazis got so many to go along with their holocaust
    against the Jews.

    People always need a scapegoat for their problems. Rather than take a look in the mirror for their issues, they blame women, unions, jews, latinos, etc.

  8. edvard2


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    8   8:44am Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (4)   Delete  

    super right wing' = irrational, xenophobic, and out of touch with modern society.

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    9   3:14pm Sun 27 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike   Delete  

    Homeboy was one of the worst trolls on this site, addicted to fights and insults, an overage juvenile white boy calling everybody racist. Some of the comments on that thread were disturbing, but if they drove him away, that would be a redeeming feature. He tended to ignore people anyway, so of course "briefly skimming" he would see only what he wanted to see.

  10. The Original Bankster


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    10   11:41am Sun 27 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (2)   Delete  

    wave9x says

    John Bailo, it is quite easy for you, living in your all white fortress, to spout on about the wonders of black neighborhoods, as you have no worry of having to experience living in one. If you were living in East Oakland, you would be singing a different tune.

    "liberals love black people as long as they dont have to smell them."

  11. HydroCabron


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    11   10:02am Sun 27 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    The Original Bankster says

    But these convenient lies we tell ourselves about these racial groups gets people elected so we continue to tell them.

    Not arguing that point - there's some truth there - but similar lies in the other direction get people elected as well.

    Most presidential campaigns are determined by which candidate can most subtly hate blacks. And politicians at all levels create scary black problems to solve when there is a need for a campaign issue. Any new drug scare features the big scary black male as its poster child: threatening even to cops with guns, this PCP-/crack-/cocaine-/speed-addled gorilla is a scourge on our property and lives! The early bans on marijuana cited usage among blacks as a particular danger. But even where usage is higher among white kids, blacks are more likely to go to jail for it.

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    12   11:24am Thu 24 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (4)   Protected  

    Call it Crazy says

    Conversely, Tens of millions tune into CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, et al for all of THEIR propaganda to change their minds...

    Not the same thing.

    Fox begins each business day trying to figure out how to deceive Americans. They WANT people to believe Iraq was responsible for 9/11 or that the CRA was responsible for the housing bubble. It is their intent to make people stupid.

    No other network does that.

  13. iwog


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    13   10:36am Thu 24 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (3)   Protected  

    CaptainShuddup says

    Iwog has 22 people following his posts?

    Someone call Rush Limbaugh, he's got some serious competition.

    All I'm saying is that this like/dislike nonsense is probably a reflection of the fact that I attempted to actually discuss a topic while the two trolls, softshell and CIC, have AGAIN attempted to make me personally the topic.

    I'm certainly not the only one who thinks they are both morons.

  14. iwog


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    14   10:24am Thu 24 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (1)   Protected  

    SoftShell says

    As an aside, the "3 likes" for iwog and "3 dislikes" for my damning post, and the rapidity of which those appeared, is turning my attention to the fact that Iwog may have a minimum of 3 accounts on patnet....hmmm..now who would they be??

    You realize I have 22 followers right? More than anyone else on pat.net including Patrick?

    BTW they aren't anonymous either.

    However if you want to stroke your own ego and pretend you're not a troll, feel free!!

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    15   8:45am Thu 24 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (6)   Dislike (2)   Protected  

    Talking to yourself again I see.......

    Health care needs to be universal or it needs to be administered based on how much you can pay or it will be utter chaos.

    Since most Americans don't think longevity should be determined by wealth, the other option is the only option. We're never going to be able to control how people live so just accept it.

  16. CaptainShuddup


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    16   4:18pm Tue 29 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (1)   Delete  

    I work at home and drink coffee on my patio in my shorts.
    My suburb is a smashing success thank you very much.

    Maybe the author should try moving.

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    17   7:21pm Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike   Delete  

    Bellingham Bill says

    just a 'race to the bottom', yes.

    There is no bottom, not since 1930s. America figured out a way to fix the economy so it never again fails.

    Step 1: Lull everyone to sleep with income equality from 1940 to 1960s.
    Step 2: While everyone is in a sleepy stupor, start transfering wealth back to the top.
    Step 3: When people start waking up to reality, let them dabble in stock market (1990s), real estate (2000s), facebook (2010s), and pretend that they are getting wealthy on quick trades of stocks that produce absolutely nothing. The dumb ones play on facebook all day, the others trade its stock. Neither party is creating value...just being lulled...back...to...sleep.......

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    18   2:56pm Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (1)   Delete  

    Get over your selves Obama won, and only HE won.

    He's living high on his winnings right now as we speak. You lost your job and insurance plan, but you gained so much more. Like time to think about it.

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    19   12:09pm Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike (2)   Delete  

    I guess I should have re-phrased the topic. Its not necessarily the right-wing crap that bothers me. There are endless posts that go on and on about liberals and how communist they are and yadda yadda.... That I can deal with.

    What to me is totally out of line is the sheer volume of nothing more than outright racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic posts that have NOTHING to do with politics. It used to be maybe on occasion one person would troll away for shock value spouting off wacky crap. But now it seems like those sort of posts have become more frequent. Like where in the hell does this shit come from?

    I guess in the end I see posts like those and a little bit of faith I have in humanity recedes a bit. Its really sad to think there are people who really and truly believe the poison they write.

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    20   10:40am Mon 28 Jul 2014   Share   Quote   Permalink   Like (5)   Dislike   Delete  

    If you are talking about the race thread, I'm a bit surprised at that myself.

    What I found even more curious...I'm on that vacation I posted an inquiry about a few months ago and went to the Giants-Dodgers game at AT&T Park last night. My fiancé is Latina, her daughter is 1/2 Latina, 1/2 Native American. Never once have I heard a racist comment at Dodger Stadium. Closest it's come is a drunk dude had a boom box and was playing Spanish language music really loud and an old guy was grumbling about it.

    However, at AT&T last night, I heard three slurs about Mexicans shouted out. I was REALLY surprised at this due to the Bay Area's very liberal reputation. Nothing worth fighting over or even causing a ruckus over, but simply surprising(and telling IMO). Now don't get me wrong, almost everyone was super nice and of course there was some good natured ribbing and banter. And we had an amazing time with great seats and the daughter getting 3 dodgers autographs.

    It had been a really long time since I last heard people just blatantly tossing out racist garbage like its acceptable to do so.

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