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PatNet Improvement Suggestions

By Dan8267   Jan 28, 1:48pm   42,713 views   186 comments   watch (1)   quote      

Thread for idea submission for PatNet improvements

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147   Dan8267   Jun 10, 5:10pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

Philistine says

Dan8267 says

being intellectually honest

I wish there were more of this. Not just here, but in the world.

Tribalism has become the fashionable substitute for politics.

Dan8267 says

Unfortunate, but true.

Case in point, the one who disliked the above post solely because I posted it. Now that's a fine example of intellectual dishonesty and tribalism.

148   someone else   Jun 10, 5:15pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

justme says

What is going on with all those one-liner newslink posts (tovarichpeter and others) that have a cloud of mostly unrelated and irrelevant keywords below them? Apart from being an annoyance, it will make searching site:patrick.net difficult.

If someone posts a bare http link, my site attempts to extract some text from that page.

It does not work very well, mostly.

149   justme   Jun 10, 11:38pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

justme says

The sensorship buck stops with Patrick.


How Snowflakey can people be?


"You cannot comment here because the post author has banned you."

Worst haiku ever!

I cannot take credit for the "worst haiku ever". HEY YOU wrote that. But yeah, it crossed my mind that what looked like a new "poetry mode" formatting perhaps was repeated attempts at dropping 3 lines of haiku.

150   justme   Jun 13, 3:33pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Enjoy your vacation @Patrick, but just wanted to bring up one thing that has been bothering me.

On or around 2017-03-31, Patnet succumbed to the "today" disease, which is when online commenting system start to follow the fad that posts should be labelled "today 3:29pm" rather than "Jun 13, 3:29pm", or even better, "2017-06-13 15:29".

I often save my comments in a file, and since March 31, it seems that all of them are from "today", whenever that might have been. I don't know if you agree but I though I'd put it out there. There must be a setting for this somewhere.

151   Dan8267   Jun 13, 3:36pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

151   Dan8267   3019/3059 = 98% civil   3:36pm tommorrow  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   ad hominem   quote    

If your posts aren't labelled 3:29 p.m. tomorrow, then you're an asshole!

152   Dan8267   Jun 13, 3:42pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

Stupid PatNet filtering inline styling, ruining the joke.

153   justme   Jun 13, 3:45pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Joke received, looks ok to me.

154   Dan8267   Jun 13, 3:46pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I was going to displace the HTML I wrote in the post so as to cover the header produced by PatNet. Then you'd see one post header, not two. But PatNet had to filter out inline styling.

155   Dan8267   Jul 13, 10:40am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

@Patrick, how about an "unfollow thread" feature that marks a thread unread by the user. Lots of time I read a thread, find it uninteresting and don't want to follow it, so I don't want the "new posts" icon to appear for it since that icon is most useful for continuing conversations that you are interested in.

Basically, let the user mark threads as unread like one does for email.

156   ThreeBays   Aug 19, 11:14am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Hey Patrick, you have style tags leaking between posts like this bold...

157   ThreeBays   Aug 19, 11:15am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

...shouldn't be bold here.

158   Patrick   Aug 19, 11:24am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Thanks! Yes, some things are kinda abgefuckt, as they say in German, but that's the old php code.

The new version of the site is here:

http://node.patrick.net/

Not yet finished, but very close. I hope that users who know Javascript will read the source and submit patches to make the site better:

https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net

159   Patrick   Aug 19, 11:27am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Interestingly, this very comment is being made via the new code and the bold text error is still there. So I propagated the problem by simply translating large swathes of php code to javascript, lol.

160   Dan8267   Aug 19, 2:57pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

end bold

At least another person is realizing just how much PHP sucks.

161   Patrick   Aug 19, 3:00pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yes, thus the conversion to node.

162   jazz_music   Aug 19, 3:09pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I certainly look forward to the ignore feature working again.

163   Patrick   Aug 22, 12:36pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

OK, up next, ignore feature.

164   Dan8267   Aug 22, 12:58pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Patrick says
OK, up next, ignore feature.


Here's how to implement that feature.

On the home page
1. Actually deliver the content, but hide it in a div with display: none.
2. Show a link "Show N ignored messages".
3. If you click that link, set each ignored thread's div to display: block.

On a thread page
1. Again, deliver the content, but hide it in a div with display: none.
2. The reply index should not be affected. Even ignored posts get a post index.
3. Each ignore post should have a visible link like "index. [username] Show". For example, "23. Blue Sardine Show   Show All".
4. Clicking the "Show" link shows that post. Clicking the "Show All" link shows all posts for that user in the current thread.

165   Dan8267   Aug 22, 12:59pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Layout bug: When quoting someone, lots of line breaks are being added. See prior post.

166   Dan8267   Aug 22, 1:00pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Also, the "new post" bug when you post a reply is still there.

167   Dan8267   Aug 28, 12:45pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

@Patrick, new bug.

1. Go to any thread.
2. Select text from a post.
3. Click the quote link.

The text inserted into the comment box reads "[username] says" where username is the name of the logged in user rather than the name of the user being quoted.

168   Patrick   Aug 28, 1:04pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says
The text inserted into the comment box reads "[username] says" where username is the name of the logged in user rather than the name of the user being quoted.


You're right! Thanks for telling me.

OK, fixed now. Here is the fix:

https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/commit/281f687970ecc34598d23c1018c07f25afb71253
One more problem I'm having: since moving from php to node, certain characters are not displaying correctly. I don't understand why, since I am using <meta charset='utf-8' /> in the html just like before.

169   Dan8267   Aug 28, 1:19pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Patrick says
One more problem I'm having: since moving from php to node, certain characters are not displaying correctly. I don't understand why, since I am using <meta charset='utf-8' /> in the html just like before.


Example? A guess: it may be that your font doesn't have glyphs for those characters.

170   Patrick   Aug 28, 1:29pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Check out https://patrick.net/post/1309428/look-at-the-democrats-trying-to-weasel-out-of-their-confederate-heritage
Here are some of the characters that won't display properly:


Happens the same on multiple browsers.

171   Dan8267   Aug 28, 2:53pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote    

The characters "“inspiration”" appear in the post. In hexadecimal the post is
C3 A2 E2 82 AC C5 93 69 6E 73 70 69 72 61 74 69 6F 6E C3 A2 E2 82 AC C2 9D.

The offending characters are codes
C3 A2 E2 82 AC C5 93 before "inspiration" and
C3 A2 E2 82 AC C2 9D after "inspiration".

C3 A2 should be rendered , the Latin lowercase letter a with cricumflex.
E2 82 AC should be rendered , the Euro symbol.
C5 93 should be rendered , the Latin lowercase ligature oe.
C2 9D is unused and should be rendered as blank space.

I doubt TPB knows how to add any these characters to a post, so it might be something screwed up in your processing of the posted text. Also, if you are using a varchar instead of a nvarchar, only Latin characters would be supported.

See http://utf8-chartable.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl for details on Unicode codes with UTF-8 encoding.

172   Dan8267   Aug 29, 1:47pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

test

173   Dan8267   Aug 29, 1:51pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

@Patrick, there's a major bug or bugs with posting comments to some threads.

I've notice that when I've clicked on certain threads with the "new comment" link, the thread shows no new comments and the page is at the top of the thread. For example, the Funny Picture thread.

I've also notice that all the comments are missing from the thread "Too soon for Texas & Harvey jokes?" if you go it via a link with the offset parameter like
https://patrick.net/post/1309403/?offset=28758#comment-1437445 but they are there if you go to the link without the offset parameter
https://patrick.net/post/1309403
This means that if you post to a thread, you don't see your comments or anyone else's.

174   Patrick   Aug 29, 3:55pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says
I've notice that when I've clicked on certain threads with the "new comment" link, the thread shows no new comments and the page is at the top of the thread. For example, the Funny Picture thread.


Did you mean the "latest" comment link on a list of posts? That was broken until just now:

https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/commit/8abd294ffdf7d8266f5016732882b4b88245cd39
Dan8267 says
This means that if you post to a thread, you don't see your comments or anyone else's.



Seems to work OK for me. I just posted this comment to a thread, and upon posting, I see it.

175   Dan8267   Aug 29, 4:18pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

Did you mean the "latest" comment link on a list of posts?

yes

176   Philistine   Aug 29, 10:05pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick, it seems the Like:Dislike quotient is always one for one in the latest comments. It's too much of a coincidence that a comment has 2 likes and 2 dislikes, or 4 likes and 4 dislikes, etc.

Or maybe we have reached brainwash parity on PatNet?

177   zzyzzx   Aug 30, 11:32am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If it actually worked in Chrome on an android phone, that would be an improvement.

178   Philistine   Aug 30, 1:19pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Philistine says
Patrick, it seems the Like:Dislike quotient is always one for one in the latest comments

So, Patrick, did you fix this, or did it just fix itself? Everything back to normal now. Bizarre-o Land!

179   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:21pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I did not change anything about like vs dislike lately.

@zzyzzx is the site still broken in Chrome on Android? If so, what happens? Just blank, hang, or something else?

180   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:27pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

This comment is being made with Firefox on Android.

181   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:28pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Well, Firefox on Android seems OK.

182   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:45pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

This is a comment from Chrome on Android.

183   Dan8267   Aug 30, 3:46pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says
@Patrick, there's a major bug or bugs with posting comments to some threads.

I've notice that when I've clicked on certain threads with the "new comment" link, the thread shows no new comments and the page is at the top of the thread. For example, the Funny Picture thread.


This is because @Patrick replaced ban with ignore. There are all sorts of bugs with ignore including showing the "new comment" link for ignored users and then when you click on it, you don't see a new comment.

Ignore and ban should be independent features, but if you are going to marry the two, and I advise against that, then at least make the ignore go both ways, so that the person you ignore cannot see your posts. Also fix the new comment bug with ignore, as that's a very annoying bug that alone makes ignore not worth using. This could be done using a left join with your ignore table and checking for null in the where clause.

184   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:46pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Still no problem. So I cannot reproduce it.

185   Patrick   Aug 30, 3:47pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says
showing the "new comment" link for ignored users


Ah thanks, will fix that.

186   Dan8267   Sep 11, 6:51am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

@patrick, I suggest setting up URL forwarding from old URLs to new site's URLs. Google search results yield error pages. That's not good for your ranking.

For example, https://patrick.net/Leftists+and+Social+Justice+Warriors+are+Conservatives 404: LeftistsandSocialJusticeWarriorsareConservatives was not found

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